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10/9/2019 5:37:39 AM
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[quote]He never told him to. He asked if he would.[/quote] You want to play semantics? Go through Lew’s replies to similar posts. Look at other replies on this post. As I said, demanding another player delete their characters is psychotic. Since were playing semantics you will notice I didn’t say Lew told him to.
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  • [quote] It’s insane to believe that you have the right to tell other players that they should delete their game saves[/quote] Here's you insinuating he told him to. And if he really did say that, I will not contest that he did, but I have not seen any posts saying that he did. If they exist I would like a quote.

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  • [quote][quote] It’s insane to believe that you have the right to tell other players that they should delete their game saves[/quote] Here's you insinuating he told him to. And if he really did say that, I will not contest that he did, but I have not seen any posts saying that he did. If they exist I would like a quote.[/quote] I didn’t insinuate that, you inferred it. Why do you think he asked the question? Infer that too while you’re at it.

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  • Just mentioned that in a previous post, also a reply to you. Check it out. Good read. And also, You can't literally say he was "telling other players" to do something, and then say "I never said he was telling other players to do that thing," you can't expect me to be that stupid, can you? If we're going around calling people psychotic as if that's acceptable I have for more reason to believe that you are out of touch with reality. Of course, I know that you, as most humans, have your own lines of reasoning, and as such it is not morally just to call you insane until I have a diagnosis in my goddamn hands.

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  • [quote]Just mentioned that in a previous post, also a reply to you. Check it out. Good read. And also, You can't literally say he was "telling other players" to do something, and then say "I never said he was telling other players to do that thing," you can't expect me to be that stupid, can you? If we're going around calling people psychotic as if that's acceptable I have for more reason to believe that you are out of touch with reality. Of course, I know that you, as most humans, have your own lines of reasoning, and as such it is not morally just to call you insane until I have a diagnosis in my goddamn hands.[/quote] I didn’t say that. You can read your own quote of me. I was describing a behavior as psychopathic. I even explained why. It’s not a personal attack when I’m not directing it at any other player, but the behavior itself. You haven’t answered any of my questions of course. Just ignored them to try and make a semantic argument you aren’t winning so you can play like this is debate class. The behavior is not sane, and you haven’t made a single argument to prove it is. Keep defending toxic posters if you want, but I think that behavior is as bad for the community as it is revealing about the people who do it.

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  • You are telling me to prove my negative claim. You made the positive claim that the behavior was psychopathic. I said it wasn't. It was never my job to prove it was sane, but rather to show why your proof doesn't work. It feels as if you're trying to place burden of proof on me, and that is very much not how it works.

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  • [quote]You are telling me to prove my negative claim. You made the positive claim that the behavior was psychopathic. I said it wasn't. It was never my job to prove it was sane, but rather to show why your proof doesn't work. It feels as if you're trying to place burden of proof on me, and that is very much not how it works.[/quote] No I asked you questions to try and get you to think through what I said and what you were saying. Instead you ignored them and just made a losing semantic argument. This isn’t debate class, stating an opinion isn’t burdening anyone with proof. You dodge the questions because answering them honestly proves that my opinion is valid, but you want to argue it isn’t.

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  • I already told you why I think he asked the question, and you're refusing to acknowledge it because it makes YOUR point look invalid.

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  • [quote]I already told you why I think he asked the question, and you're refusing to acknowledge it because it makes YOUR point look invalid.[/quote] You haven’t answered any of my direct questions because you’re not trying to have a discussion. That’s fine, but please spare me the false pretense.

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  • Edited by Dredgen Truth: 10/9/2019 7:40:29 AM
    I did answer this, actually. Your question was why I thought he made the reply, and my answer, in another reply, as stated multiple times, is that posts like this tend to be full of melodrama, which leads many to act rather cynically in response to them. At this point, the back and forth is tiring, and it's clear it's not going anywhere, but if you're going to criticize me for pretense please actually read the argument you've been having. I did answer your question, a while ago, and you accused me of being intellectually dishonest just because I didn't want to answer the question twice.

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  • [quote]I did answer this, actually. Your question was why I thought he made the reply, and my answer, in another reply, as stated multiple times, is that posts like this tend to be full of melodrama, which leads many to act rather cynically in response to them. At this point, the back and forth is tiring, and it's clear it's not going anywhere, but if you're going to criticize me for pretense please actually read the argument you've been having. I did answer your question, a while ago, and you accused me of being intellectually dishonest just because I didn't want to answer the question twice.[/quote] You should review the thread then. Multiple times I have asked different questions in an attempt to get you to explain why you think that behavior is sane, and/or reasonable. I’ve asked questions multiple different ways. It’s true it’s not going anywhere.

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  • Edited by Dredgen Truth: 10/9/2019 2:51:39 PM
    I don't exactly see any questions I didn't respond to. There are some that I didn't directly address, but I always gave an answer to them in my replies.

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