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10/10/2019 3:03:30 AM
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Played borderlands through endgame and I can say conclusively that destiny is better by a wide margin. It's not that borderlands is bad. It's not. It's a good game. Put it this way. I bought borderlands knowing it would fill the 2 weeks before shadowkeep and expecting it to overlap. One week after borderlands launched, I was max level, had pretty much every legendary and no vault space left(despite it being maxed out) to get any more. There was no content I hadn't done and no reason to do anything again. One week after borderlands dropped, I was back on destiny 2, 2years after its release and 3.5 months after its most recent content drop, with a ton of stuff still to do. The quality of the content is better. There's more to do. The content has actual exclusive rewards. The quality of the gameplay/gunplay is better. To be fair, it's slightly disingenuous to compare them because, while they're both looter shooters, they tackle the genre in very different ways. Borderlands is more campaign oriented and destiny is endgame oriented. Borderlands rains loot while destiny makes you earn it but that makes the feeling of getting a yellow in BL about as special as getting a purple in destiny. None of the content in BL3 is remotely aspirational, which is on account of it being campaign-centric and not focused on endgame.
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  • Edited by ken31cayman: 10/10/2019 1:09:21 PM
    I guess I can't much argue with anything you said. All true. One thing that stands out for me is Destiny's unrivaled game/shooting mechanics. But what I said before is still true for me. I like & enjoy Borderlands games more, and of course this is subjective. After playing D1 daily from the time it was released, then playing D2 less faithfully up until 8 months ago, I've had it with this franchise. I won't get into specifics but I'm sure you've heard it all before. Most of my issues stem from this game having pvp and all the changes Bungie makes due to that fact. Borderlands 3 is in many ways a lesser game, but as a non-pvp single player it's just what I like. Now if it had Destiny's game mechanics then it would be pretty perfect.

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  • 100% agree about PvP. It's awful and it brings down the rest of the game by existing. That's almost unarguable. And yeah preference is definitely subjective. And good on you for liking borderlands, I love it too, mostly the charm of its world and how it doesn't take itself seriously. That being said, if the community was chomping at the bit to criticize BL with the Adamance that they have for criticizing destiny, it wouldn't last a single day. Most of the criticisms of destiny apply to BL and many more do as well. However, people refuse to be objective and are judicious in their application if criticism. There are criticisms of destiny that no one would dare apply to any other game and that would absolutely apply to BL and many more games.

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  • Edited by ken31cayman: 10/11/2019 12:58:18 PM
    [quote]That being said, if the community was chomping at the bit to criticize BL with the Adamance that they have for criticizing destiny, it wouldn't last a single day. Most of the criticisms of destiny apply to BL and many more do as well. However, people refuse to be objective and are judicious in their application if criticism. There are criticisms of destiny that no one would dare apply to any other game and that would absolutely apply to BL and many more games.[/quote] Some gripes about skills not working and release bugs, but gearbox forums are pretty tame in comparison. I put it to a difference in expectations. Borderlands players don't expect as much as Destiny players. But I also think there's an underlying conflict in Destiny; pve player's expectations vs pvp player's expectations being in direct conflict, which Borderlands doesn't have to deal with.

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