While the tone may be negative, I cannot fault you for acknowledging a consistent issue when it comes to LFG. This type of issue quite literally broke my interest in raiding because I just couldn't deal with it anymore. Crown Of Sorrow is fittingly the last I've done. Garden at the time just seemed like it would be hell. Like any rational being, I'm forgiving of failure so long it is learned form, it becomes problematic once it's clear mistakes are not being fully realized and continued effort feels like a waste of time. Still, I'd stay until others bailed out, but I can't help but facepalm a complete disregard for mechanics after having them explained or an incapacity for survival that is seemingly beyond reasonable. Say it's the final room of CoS, if my partner and I can effectively spawn kill ads, I don't see how others can consistently struggle to survive so much when it takes so little. Just about everyone could be dominated almost instantly, but somehow I'd still find myself turning around to both people dead or one guy with no revive available, a wipe either way. By the game's design, you cannot do anything about this. It expects the struggling to carry their weight, so it's no surprise people start doing the same. What sucks is the thin line you're walking if you dare to talk about this because now you're suddenly the asshole that can't respect the circumstances of others or their lesser skills. It's a legitimate argument to be irritated by someone basically not being cognisant when D2 raids demand this more than ever and they practically refuse to learn from anything. It's arguably rude to expect others to carry your weight while you are simultaneously being a detriment to success for whatever reason. It's one thing if it's out of your control, but stacking on preventable wipes is bound to drive people away as the ultimate reality of LFG is that people are there to get it done not waste 3 times the amount of time they would just for someone(s) to get it together, and still probably not get what they were after. It sucks, but if people were actively seeking to tolerate this, they'd be shepherding.