It’s bad enough the changes they made with the oracles but the toxicity and elitism of people in these lfg groups is unbelievable. My clan was short 2 guys so we ended up using lfg and found some people to fill the spots. These 2 guys said they had an Atheon checkpoint and ask if we could start there and they’d help us with the beginning parts after so we agreed.
Now this was our very first time in the raid learning everything and these guys had already played and made it to Atheon. So we start and their we a few mistakes but after a while we were getting the hang of stuff. All of a sudden these guys say um I don’t think we will get this done the damage isn’t enough. Now these guys were putting out similar to less damage than everyone else and were making mistakes as well. They just continued to be negative and no longer wanted to help anymore. It’s just ridiculous how people just don’t have the patience anymore to figure out where the mistakes lie, correct it and keep pushing. They rather be negative, create tension and anxiety. People want to beat the raid just as badly as these elitist pricks. Thus why raid should’ve stayed the same as it was in D1 and challenge mode should’ve had the changes.
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Destiny has always been like this. After an hour in one place though, you have to call it. No point spending 2 hours at once section. The whole raid should be done within 2 hours. The only good thing about raids these days, bungie fixed most of the glitchy issues so you can progress a little faster.. If you didn't play D1. .there was a raid with a boss named crota.. Son of a -blam!- was programmed soo poorly early on. You'd get stuck on the boss for hours cause of how bad it was. Even though the raid was super easy.