But I thought we made peace with the cabal? Unless there’s a different faction of cabals out there.

Honestly that 20 minutes where we lost our light was pretty lame. Could have done a lot more with it.

Hopefully lightfall

Is this how desperate the community has become to hold onto that final piece of nostalgia? Remaking one of the few parts of the game that kept your withdrawal symptoms just bad enough that you kept playing during all the garbage dlc? At the very least atleast you sort of identify the root of your obsession. However let go of the hope that bungie will put that eververse money to use and produce new content close to vanilla. Lying to yourself might give you small hits of dopamine each time a trailer drops but is it worse the let down once it releases. Albert Einstein once said “a point is reach in everyone’s life when they find themselves playing a garbage dlc but only a fool keeps paying for annual trash.”

In all honesty, I was actually thinking that this would be a great idea if guardians lost to savathun and to the black fleet. After both of these heavy losses, the vanguard is on the verge of splitting up bc they cannot agree on what to do. Zavala wouldn't want to risk any more guardians lives and is depressed while also saying that after all these years, nothing's changed after the red war, but ikora wants to fight because she almost gave up during that time and wasn't there to protect her friend when he really needed her. She couldn't even do as much as avenge him. Instead she feels guilty and a little ashamed that her underling had to do it for her. You also would feel helpless bc even though you've got more powers, you still feel weak. You wonder how you can beat the black fleet if you couldn't even beat oryx's weaker little sister. I love it when characters experience despair, bc they are literally at their lowest point. To be honest, I've been saying this for a while. The theme that I liked in the red war was that guardians take the light for granted. They have all of this great power that was given to them, but then they choose to waste its potential. Look at how powerful ghaul became after he stole the light. He turned into a giant being of light. He became so powerful that the traveler had to intervene. Even though he stole the light, I really feel like we can do something similar to that. The honest truth is that we really don't know too much about the light and where the traveler came from. Guardians should be trying to figure out how to use the light to it's full potential, but all they really use it for is for stupid things like emotes. Guardians haven't mastered the light, and I don't think they've scratched the surface. And that's what a future expansion should be about. The true nature of light and dark, and how to manifest them to their full potential.

Unpopular opinion but: I would like to see a civil war between guardians in a campaign I mean we’ve had lore for a long time about rogue guardians Why can’t there be a campaign about something on our own front

Never gonna happen. Bungie had a lot of the workload carried by studios Activision held. If it hasn’t been clear enough the last couple expansions, Bungie is incapable of that volume of content on their own.

Honestly I want earth to get taken . Let's go ,.final raid is a 6 man team fighting through the city , through the wall having a climactic final fight atop the tower

A lot of Destiny campaigns start with an L. Taken king started with oryx scaring us off of phobos, Red war and forsaken started off with the loss of the tower and Cayde, and even beyond light started with us having to run away from Eramis. I really think those kinds of losses should hit harder, and impose a harder feeling of dread. With witch queen I'm hoping really lets us wallow in the dread of light bearing hive for the first 3 or so missions. Let us see them devastate other guardians, thwart the hiddens ops. Don't just make it so Ikora only tells us over comms that they're causing her lots of trouble.

Red war's losses felt pretty hollow. We never lost a single time outside of a cutscene.