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3/24/2023 9:15:14 AM
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We shouldn’t have to cheese to get 200k
Why can’t developers simply add more enemies worth more points. Almost like a high value target that shows up in gambit. Have like 4 high value targets that show up in difficult combat scenarios that way only the best guardians can manage to kill the target as well as pass the objective at hand. Make it to where if you only got like 3 out of 4 high value targets then you wouldn’t have enough points. We all love a healthy challenge… but why would you make a game to where you have to cheese. That’s very displeasing.
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1 ReplyThe sheer amount of people saying "hurrr durr, you accumulate points across multiple NFs...." Stop it. That's not what they are talking about. Good grief, reading is fundamental. There is a 200k ON ONE RUN requirement to guardian rank up.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/26/2023 4:00:03 AMYep. Nightfalls all have different amount of enemies and champs and take different amounts of time. Making a singular requirement like this that applies to them all despite those differences makes no sense. It actually shows a lack of common sense or lack of internal communication. No idea why they STILL repeatedly do things like this. When the most efficient way to do it is not indicative of the intended combat or intended way to play(res farming, needlessly chaining supers instead of simply using them when actually needed, excessive finisher amount of finishers instead of safely killing powerful enemies from a distance, etc), then it is poor implementation.
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Rez farming is fun and engaging though
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6 RepliesBungie: We are listening. Update Hotfix 2.3.alpha.wetwipe will adress the following. 1. Players at Rank 9 will receive a 100% Damage reduction and double enemy kill points in all activities. 2. Players can now level up by using "shards of ascendant flux core hyperbolic terminal Shellcore motes" that will be unlocked by a Secret quest only found by completing a grandmaster solo flawless. As an alternative they can be purchased from eververse for 10,000 Silver. 3. Players at Guardian level 12 will be subjected to a Debuff called "Bane of Torment" where at any given moment, in any activity, a Named Tormentor "Fa' achk Yeuh" - Invasion Pilot of the Disciple's Witness will enter an activity and steal your motes and Rank. The Tormentor can be easily Identified, as the audio visual indication will be several times more intense than that of the current public event blackout mechanic. In order to defeat the Tormentor, you must shoot down his Thresher shields. Once this has been done, you can travel to the Farm to speak to Devrim Kay at the projector then immediately travel to the EDZ to receive further information from Devrim Kay in person. Quest will progress to meet up with Devrim Kay in a random lost sector that rotates on a daily basis. Once you found Devrim you must travel back to Trostland for a Debrief where he will instruct you to travel to the farm's projector in order to receive coordinates to the Weapon that will Temporarily stun the named Tormentor for 24 Hours. This will reset daily. Alternatively this step can be skipped by using a Mote. 4. Gambit now has Champion Mobs.
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4 RepliesI got 196k my first Arms dealer try and 204k my 2cd it was the first time I've done it since it got revamped so... it's easy lol your obviously not making orbs enough and finishing quickly. Idk what to tell ya
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1 ReplyBecause they don’t play test , you do it for them .
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1 ReplyThis. It seems like the team that made the Guardian ranks went “ooh that’s a nice round number” and went with it without checking if it was actually achievable without cheesing it.
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7 RepliesI think the original intention Was for the 200k to require a GM It wasn’t meant to be completed on master I agree it’s awful My team did it in the new neomuna nightfall. We killed every single ad We let them duplicate and spawn more to kill them as well We focused on precision kills for the higher points And we had to farm revives It still took multiple try’s to get the score
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1 ReplyBecause the guardian rank team, probably didn't confer with the gameplay team during development
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2 RepliesThe points add across multiple completions my friend, it took me three times with randoms but i got the pinnacle. This is an improvement over the past imo
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2 RepliesI did try it 4 times.. We are always 2k offf to get 200k score. Camon bungo wtf, do you test ur shiz?
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1 ReplyEdited by RadRob-88: 3/26/2023 3:42:58 AMAgreed I finally did a master spire and found it easier than trying to get 130k nightfall. I don’t think that is how it needs to be. Having to post lfg farming points run in a nightfall doesn’t feel right. Glassway is coming so should be slam dunk for 130k and 200k but I guess that’s the theme. IB season challenge out before IB. Before if you needed more points just move up a level. I have not tried a master to see if you get legend clear for 8 yet.
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It’s kinda lame but also I accept the challenge of getting tho the end fast enough to have time to spawn farm tht yellow bar enemy. I do agree though it’s silly we have to do that.
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just shows you that they dont even play their own game
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1 ReplyBungie does not play nor test their own game.
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9 RepliesEdited by IAGNRG: 3/25/2023 6:59:30 PMIs this in reference to the weekly score challenge? If so, it is over multiple runs. No need to stress yourself with one run - of course you [i]could[/i] do that if desired, but it’s not needed. Noted, this is for Rank 9.
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1 ReplyYou don't need to this Nightfall, we got 200k by playing normally on Master, I got a few 198k runs too so it's doable, unlike previous in Nightfalls I'd recommend trying it this week
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Need to increase your E-peen- more.
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7 RepliesBut cheese on toast is nice
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22 RepliesOn what? The Nightfall? You don't have to cheese it...just run it twice?
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27 RepliesEdited by BurningWidow: 3/24/2023 6:26:09 PMThe proving grounds strike is easy to get 200K in master. I know it's not the current NF but just wait to get the 200k. It's not like you can even get to rank 10 until the GMs are out. So just chill for now while being timegated. In all Honesty, if you feel like cheesing this NF or last NF for 200k you might not be as good as you think you are.
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If people are falling short in the current Nightfall, you can farm the orb carriers in the boss room by picking up an orb and then dropping it, it'll despawn and another enemy will spawn (worth a lot of points). But the state of both Strikes and Dares is very disappointing. They're basically doing what they did with Plunder, where you had to halt your progress for the sake of farming. It was hated then and it's hated now. Bungie needs to recrunch those numbers pronto.
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4 RepliesHere is your best tip to easily get 200k fonish the champions they are worth alot more finished than shooting them to death. Easy 200k that way
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Bungies idea of difficulty is increasing enemy healthbars and adding timers.
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You don't have to
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1 ReplyBungie has added more artificial enemies, the issue is not with population, but with the management of the point system. Bungie has added, as well as Bungie will provide more AI enemies as you increase the difficulty settings higher, this game is not becoming much more difficult, although it is become more tedious. As the player increases the difficulty the point system does not reflect that, randomly rolled awards aren’t evaluated for in accordance to the player’s difficulty choice, and the AI enemies are made stronger, yet they still retain the intelligence of a much lower quality enemy type. This game is filled with repetition as a form to patent out the time, intelligence of player’s are not being challenged, we the player log on for the daily chores, then log back out, many of us are infatuated with the mechanical feel of the game, not the story, the artificial enemies, or the games design, Bungie is just another corporation,a company who has gotten lucky with getting the mechanical side of things to be as addictive as it has become, and that is as far as they will ever get.
