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12/1/2023 3:55:16 AM
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The dr will still be bad even if its at 40 or even 50. In comp or trials or even normal "casual" 6v6 control a glaive player will get dropped by shotty melee or get killed by CF. Let's not forget stasis and strand that can completely stop a glaive user trying to move around to get any kind of kills.
Let's say you do mange to avoid all that now you have to face slow movement when shield is up, piss poor DR(so poor depending on the glaive you won't even be able to shoot another shot). after buff/nerf to glaives you can no longer glaive shoot melee kill a guardian anymore even if its a aggressive frame glaive so many times I leave a guardian 1 shot just for me to die cuz the glaive dmg was nerfed the melee was nerfed a while back.
Any sort of buff the glaive gets, there is always a nerf that completely negates the buff. Cool a buff to glaives but whats the point when the nerf ruins the whole point of the buff. You can't use it at range cant use it in close combat. Glaives don't work in pvp hate to say it but shotties/snipers/tracerifles/fusions/literally any special weapon that ain't a glaive does the job better in every way.
If glaives want to be a viable option then
1. Shield must be able to survive shotty melee.
2. Remove the slow movement when shield is up
3. Either bring glaive dmg back to where it was or melee dmg back to where it was before nerf.
4. Against primaries it has to be able to tank those shots if not whats the point of it being a special weapon.
5. Completely forgot everything above and make glaives take primary ammo with small tweaks so it wouldn't be as strong as bows.
The last time glaives were actually good was when it first got released. Strong -blam!- shield but everything about the glaive was garbage. Tbh I prefer that strong shield but hitting shots was a gamble whether it would work or not.
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Edited by A_mo: 12/1/2023 4:06:31 PMIt should be scary to face a glaive user with a shotgun or a fusion. Those two weapons work against primaries better or should work against primaries better but glaives should kind of loop back around on those two for the most part. It shouldn't be able to get to where they're just tanking primary shits somehow. Even if they have to make it some obvious perk thing that works within a certain range just to get it there.
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Yeah no thanks on all these suggestions, glaives were oppressive when original dmg resist was there. The only reason they weren't out of control is due to usage rates. They would tank multiple mags of primary and multi special shots. We don't need ridiculous amounts of overshields in pvp...it's already bad enough with void titans.
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[quote]Yeah no thanks on all these suggestions, glaives were oppressive when original dmg resist was there. The only reason they weren't out of control is due to usage rates. They would tank multiple mags of primary and multi special shots. We don't need ridiculous amounts of overshields in pvp...it's already bad enough with void titans.[/quote] Only oprreisve for low skill players
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Who are you referring to as low skill? As some that's played thousands of d2 pvp games, you can easily tell when something is not balanced decently.
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Yet no one took advantage of it due to its inconsistencies only players that were willing to gamble with it were rewarded. It was the best weapon to counter so many annoying play styles. Its fine though ofc why would a player want something that counters their no brain play style.
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[quote]Yet no one took advantage of it due to its inconsistencies only players that were willing to gamble with it were rewarded. It was the best weapon to counter so many annoying play styles. Its fine though ofc why would a player want something that counters their no brain play style.[/quote] It was an amazing weapon to counter other ply styles And everyone whose been countered is here tryna complain about glaives
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It's also a no brain play style...what in this game isn't a no brain play style? Don't dump on other styles with the skill elitism. Tank all future damage, if you can get one hit while in someone's face or while they're turned around, doesn't take skill. You're unkillable while that shield is up. Every le monarque crutch user claims the same also, how they're countering peekers...every single one. Then there was that heavy machine gun that gave a ridiculous over shield before it finally got nerfed...another broken perk.
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Unkilllable is pushing it especially now. Almost every player runs CF which completely counters all glaives plus stasis and strand can stop any player with or without glaive. Also when shield is up you move so much slower than standard walking. If you can mange to out movement a shield that not only makes the users hit box 3x bigger than normal while they move like a snail, shots have a chance to wiff as much as a melee than idk what to tell you.
