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12/16/2023 9:00:31 PM
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Well, when everyone can agree on what to keep and what should go maybe things could be slimmed down. But since that'll likely never happen, this is where we find ourselves. 🤷♂️
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Nah, I bet no one is playing Relic. Comp is probably way down with Trials around, they should probably merge them or get rid of comp when Trials is around. I know they like checkmate but two control lobbys is too many. They should just have clash and control and alternate which one gets checkmate every week.
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I think you responded to the wrong person, lol.
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If we make enough noise, like this post, then it can facilitate that very thing.
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Edited by jmann43b: 12/16/2023 9:25:35 PMThe "noise" you're referring to is what continues to split PvP like it is. For example, Bungie introduced Checkmate because of the noise people made about wanting less abilities in PvP and they asked for it in more modes but then people hated it in Control, so Bungie made two modes: Checkmate Control and Normal Control. See where I'm going with this? Edit: I won't get started on SBMM vs CBMM.
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All checkmate had to be was same ttk with reduced special and ability uptime. I wouldve played the -blam!- out of it. Instead we get decreased ttk giving hc and bows the entire playlist.
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Sure, that would've been great for you and a lot of other people, but what about the group who hated the reduced ability use and demanded things be reverted back? Bungie accommodated them by making a split mode, one with Checkmate and one without. Like I originally said to the OP, players can't agree on what stays and what goes so Bungie splits everything to please everyone and the PvP population gets stretched ever further, resulting in longer queue times, playing the same handful of people over and over, etcetera Too many people seem to think McDonald's makes Destiny and want it "their way." I wanted to use Frank Sinatra here, but McDonald's just fit better.
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So, what you're saying is that I am correct. Making noise gets results, so let's try to get a better implementation. Unless you prefer to sit on the sidelines and do nothing but complain.
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I didn't complain about anything, I was merely pointing out that complaining is what led to PvP being split so much. If players complained about [i]the same thing[/i] it would unquestionably make changes in the right direction but as I said originally, "when everyone can agree on what to keep and what should go maybe things could be slimmed down. But since [b]that'll likely never happen......[/b]"
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All of your comments, but especially the second and third, equate to complaining that there is no point in trying. So, I guess I have my answer. Take care.
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There were no complaints whatsoever, only stating the observations I've made reading posts on the forum. I also never said there's no point in trying either, but you're welcome to interpret and bend my posts to suit your narrative as you see fit.
