Said former member decided this was the place to flex on their raid clears, speedruns and lowmans, said former member did not respect our wishes as a community to slow down and understand this is a casual place and we are honestly not interested in turning it into a speedrun 1337 clan, said former member was contacted on multiple occasions, said former member became passive aggressive towards the leadership, said former member was kicked from the clan after a discussion about it was had. We're a casual clan, we intend to keep it casual, there are elite/speedrun clans out there better suited for said former member and his alt accounts. Being salty to the point said former member comes flame us in a recruitment post is kinda cute, though.

The fact you replied with a hit piece to an honest review with more pros than cons that only has compliments for your members. Only provides more evidence to the first con on the list.

A hit piece? Not at all. We tried talking to you about it, you didn't listen, you got passive aggressive, you got booted. We have a lovely community and we stay in our lane. If I felt you were worth going after personally, I'd contact your new clanmates. But I'm not like that. I wish you were better, too.

[quote]If I felt you were worth going after personally, I'd contact your new clanmates. But I'm not like that. I wish you were better, too.[/quote] Textbook passive aggressive. Just more highlights to validate the first con.

Is your new clan really so bad you have to keep this up? Come on man. Grow up and move on with your life. We couldn't get along, we had a different approach to the game, it was decided it's better for the health of the community if we move forward without you. It's that simple. You are a helpful lad, you're a good and skilled player, but our playstyles and goals didn't match. You'll be happier elsewhere where people don't have to ask you to slow down, and where people are actually impressed with your DSC clears.

You're the one in these replies disgruntled, I've only highlighted your actions. I left a decent review that was courteous and professional. You just don't like the fact that I called leadership bad. You didn't even try and talk about the other cons. And why do you gotta bash my new clan? I was passing by to upvote their recruiting post when I saw this and decided to write a review. Also, I would like to change my previous statement. What you said wasn't passive-aggressive. It was a threat. And violates your own clan rules.

To be honest, the fact you left your review and didn't leave it at that says a lot more about you than it does us. You're asking us to accept what you've said about the clan, yet refuse to acknowledge what we in turn said about our interests clashing being the reason you were removed. [quote]You didn't even try and talk about the other cons.[/quote] Did you? Also you finding what Sun said "a threat" is amusing; this is a game dude. Like said, grow up and move on.

[quote]To be honest, the fact you left your review and didn't leave it at that says a lot more about you than it does us. [/quote] Think about this line next time you leave a review about anything. [quote]You're asking us to accept what you've said about the clan, yet refuse to acknowledge what we in turn said about our interests clashing being the reason you were removed.[/quote] None of my replies are denials. [quote][quote]You didn't even try and talk about the other cons.[/quote] Did you?[/quote] Twice, first in my initial review, second in me point it out to you guys. [quote]Also you finding what Sun said "a threat" is amusing; this is a game dude. Like said, grow up and move on.[/quote] Says the two clan heads arguing with a former member in a review about a clan in the game. It sounds like you guys are angry with my review and clearly aren't done. Would you like to continue this elsewhere? It's rather unprofessional and unbecoming of the clan leaders to be arguing over a review they see as bad in the replies.

You, as the instigator, trying to take a high road is also cute. We have a good community here, and we're protective of it and its spirit. If someone or something disrupts it, we will intervene with the tools provided to us. We were never impolite, we tried talking to you about the issues, you weren't interested in hearing us out, instead choosing to give us attitude and as a result were let go. I'm sorry you didn't like this, and I'm sorry you are this petty. All this conversation has proven is we made the right decision. We do not need this kind of energy in our clan. When multiple people complain to the leadership about your attitude and behavior, we as bad leaders listen to our community, and make the bad leadership decision to resolve the situation by removing the problem from the equation. Maybe start your own clan, so you don't need to worry about other bad leaders? Or, you know, internalize feedback without lip. We were polite, we were courteous, we reached out privately, and you give us the finger. This is what happens. Deal with it.

Alright, I don't actually care to continue. I was only here to drop an honest review and dip. Only showing back up to use your replies as highlighted evidence to the singular thing in my review you decided to hyper focus on. So, my final highlight. [quote]You, as the instigator, trying to take a high road is also cute.[/quote] I left a review that has 5 pros and 3 cons. Says only good things about your community, and if i just removed 1 singular thing, "bad leadership," it would probably be a good review in your eyes. And you replied with this: [quote]Said former member decided this was the place to flex on their raid clears, speedruns and lowmans, [/quote] Negative [quote]said former member did not respect our wishes as a community to slow down and understand this is a casual place and we are honestly not interested in turning it into a speedrun 1337 clan, [/quote] Negative [quote]said former member was contacted on multiple occasions, [/quote] Negative [quote]said former member became passive aggressive towards the leadership,[/quote] Negative [quote]said former member was kicked from the clan after a discussion about it was had.[/quote] Negative [quote]Being salty to the point said former member comes flame us in a recruitment post is kinda cute, though.[/quote] And, this is an inflammatory statement meant to instigate. But I kept my cool. I just called it what it is a hit piece, with only negatives. But you decided to reply with: [quote]If I felt you were worth going after personally, I'd contact your new clanmates. But I'm not like that. I wish you were better, too.[/quote] A threat. I incorrectly called it passive-aggressive, but then you proceeded to indirectly insult my current clan and try and gain some sort of moral high ground. [quote]Is your new clan really so bad you have to keep this up? Come on man. Grow up and move on with your life. We couldn't get along, we had a different approach to the game, it was decided it's better for the health of the community if we move forward without you. It's that simple. You are a helpful lad, you're a good and skilled player, but our playstyles and goals didn't match. You'll be happier elsewhere where people don't have to ask you to slow down, and where people are actually impressed with your DSC clears.[/quote] However, as I defended my support for my current clan and corrected my previous statement. I pointed out the whole crux of this reply thread: You aren't here to defend your community like you currently claim. You are only here in the replies defending yourself personally. [b][u]My review has 0 negatives, and 4/5 positives about your community.[/u][/b] But you can't let "bad leadership" go. You didn't even acknowledge the other 2 cons that could be real deal breakers for people. 1. High turnover. 2. Not enough schedule activities. (Don't even think of trying to spin this 1, I was half of the scheduled activities.) Kittens only tried to pretend I didn't either. You Sun still haven't. You want to take the high ground? Then do what I'm doing the professional thing and leaving things as is. Goodbye.