It never had 20% damage buff.
15% is nothing, simply nothing.
Obviously you can't recall the outstanding damage potential good 'ol Recluse had in its high days.
https://youtu.be/n89tlX4B3bA?si=jNnTedtzwBcCwAOg
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Yes it did. Right before everything got sunset they nerfed all of the pinnacle perks. Moa had a 15% nerf and was at 20% dmg boost instead of 35%. They should of kept it at 35% in pve and left it at 20% in pvp. That would have made recluse much better but as it stands funnelweb is the better option.
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 4/16/2024 4:30:00 AMI would disagree. Feeding frenzy and frenzy on the recluse is better than subsistence frenzy funnelweb. Also keep in mind that recluse can roll repulsor/destablizing and surrounded. Like look at all the great perks recluse has. Dynamic sway... target lock... tap the trigger... Funnelweb's perks are 90% doggy.
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Feeding frenzy and frenzy is useless together because frenzy increases reload speed. The best roll for recluse would be desperate measures and maybe repulsor brace or feeding frenzy. But we are talking about how useless moa is.
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Not useless lol wtf literally perfect together
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I guess u don't understand. Feeding frenzy only increases reload speed. While frenzy increases, dmg reload speed and handling. Why are u gonna use 2 reload speed perks when u can get a second perk that is useful, such as repulsor brace. They are no way close to perfect together, actually they are terrible together. You never need 2 reload speed perks on a weapon.
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Because they stack you bot
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Says the one who thinks they need a stacking reload speed buff on an smg when u can take a perk that will benefit u in combat. Because u know u already have a reload speed buff. Please stop ur embarrassing urself
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 4/16/2024 12:27:16 PMYou said they were useless together. They're not. Now that you've seen you're wrong you're putting words in my mouth saying they "need" a stacking reload. Cope
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They are useless together. U will never need a stacking reload buff unless it's on a dps weapon. Anyone with a brain would dismantle a feeding frenzy frenzy roll over a roll with anything else and frenzy. Because a stacking reload buff is useless in any kind of content.
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 4/16/2024 1:26:57 PMThey're not useless together though. You're wrong. Useless would be if the reload speed didn't stack, but it does.
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Ur thinking in terms of actually usable. I am thinking in terms of u won't ever use it because there is no point. Please stop embarrassing urself u look like a fool.
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Edited by Obi-Juan: 4/16/2024 1:47:28 PM[quote]Ur thinking in terms of actually usable.[/quote] Hahahaha so we've finally come to the realisation that you were wrong with your use of "useless" and now you want to try and move the goalposts. [quote] stop embarrassing urself u look like a fool.[/quote]
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Yeah, I mean the original op days. But even post nerf back then 20% was still strong. Now OK with 15% Imho but not really better than Funnelweb. Or just take any smg running with kill clip.
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I mean the perk should be something though it shouldn't be useless. They either need to buff it 20% again or they need to add something to it. Why would anyone use that perk over frenzy. Frenzy gives a lot of benefits over moa and in higher content it procs easier.
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Indeed. One Youtuber suggested to run MOA together with enlightened action in order to reap the benefits of Frenzy but why wasting a perk when you can just run Frenzy instead plus another perk like dynamic sway or whatever in column 3.