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You ll get a crucible labs only guns next week. If widely used it may become the standard for trials and comp
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  • And if it does bungie dies The basically had all gunplay back at the start of D2 given how slow abilities were and that almost killed bungie. All gunplay would mean they have to contend against CoD fully which will kill this game. There should be abilities in the game as it is what makes Destiny what it is. Stop wishing for the destruction of game you enjoy and play.

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  • Edited by Coal: 4/27/2024 8:34:02 PM
    You seem to be forgetting how D1 pvp was… and D1 pvp (specifically trials) single handedly kept D1 alive during content droughts. The only reason D2 vanilla pvp was not liked was because of double primary. I didn’t hear anyone complain about abilities back then.

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  • D1 pvp will ever remain the golden age of pvp

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  • What the d1 trials that was nothing but noland beyond, icebreaker and sidearms to ignore the special ammo crate changes? Or the high population trials from house of wolves ruled by 2 weapons? Or the quick charge abilities of D1 that gave quick action?

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  • Edited by Coal: 4/27/2024 9:17:24 PM
    The metas back in D1 does not change the fact that trials was extremely popular and carried D1 through content droughts. You can hate D1 pvp all you want, but clearly most people liked it. Side note: No land, sidearms and icebreaker was not even a full year of the D1 meta. We went through many other enjoyable metas. And the no land meta was fun, idkwym.

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  • Edited by Sovereign001885: 4/27/2024 9:19:11 PM
    Yes and at its peak there were not ammo crates, when ammo crates came around everyone chose to circumvent it with a primary ammo sniper, a sniper that regens ammo or side arms which were the only specials to start with ammo. Abilities were also much faster in d1 than they are now with it being easy to have triple 300 stats giving you 30 second nades and melee with a less than 5 minute super Edit: abilities were also stronger, 1 shot shoulder charge, insta kill sticky nades with high tracking etc

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  • I never said I like ammo crates. I’m just talking about abilities. I must say that those were the only 2 abilities that were really potent in D1. But there were no class abilities and no armor mods, artifact mods, fragments and aspects like we have today. I don’t remember cooldowns being that quick back then tbh. Maybe they were. But I don’t remember abilities being a problem back then. I also don’t remember anyone else really complaining about abilities back then either.

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  • People complained about shoulder charge stickies but all abilities were fast which meant everyone was on an even field, even with low stats they were quick. Removing them wont do any good given destiny is built on ability and gunplay simultaniously.

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  • Only for trials and comp in normal crucible would be good to get the old sandbox if you ask me. The thing is as long as pvp use abilities it will destroy pve. I mean look at the abilities cool down.. we once had 30 sec for any grenades., vortex grenade din t suck foes as it use to be, strom grenade and the list.goes on ...

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  • Storm got nerfed because of PvE or did you forget the old HoIL titan of s18 Abilities are a core part of the game and honestly pure gunplay is overdone, all that will happen is a loss of players

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  • Even in pvp dude.it was tracking.you like crazy but also it dealt so much damage one shoot grenade actually ... but in both playlist it was an issue you re right Pvp is indeed in a dire strait but it is mainly due to the abysmal lags more than anything else. With the new sandbox where abilities are dead .. i mean not having them will not change.that much. But no abilities only for trials and comp though

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  • Abilities arent dead if you build right and id say are in the optimal spot

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  • While Idk if this is still the plan technically there is still 1 ability than can be used. Icarus. Bungie talked about this mode I think last season and mentioned how double jumps and icarus would be available as the only abilities (Because double jumps are technically abilities)

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  • Pretty sure the TWiD said icarus will not be usable

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  • Aight good to see.

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