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12/20/2024 6:43:40 PM
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SAVE THE GAME - attract new and retain old
Game is dying. We veterans know this has so much potential. Please do something before it's too far gone
1. You Must fix new player experience. Make it a little more coherent and less overwhelming and simplify the menus
2. For old players please listen to the criticism of how grindy it is. If there is no crafting allow us to focus engrams and maybe even have a way to get guaranteed drops of perks
3. Give PVP some love. We need them in the game and heck maybe even setup a PVP tournament. They create excitement and draw people to game and PVE
HOPE SOMEONE IS LISTENING
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8 RepliesThe game is dying and bungie is to blame for catering to the hard-core player player base on top of all the bugs and glitches. The game has become to grindy and to challenging to most of the playerbase for them to continue playing. Due the fact they no longer have access to endgame activities. Most of lfg is kwtd or get kicked. The new raid wasn't made for the majority of destiny players. Trials was never really accessible to casual player. It's always been for hard-core players only. Strikes need to return. Battlegrounds are not fun and not made for casuals or new players. Enemy density needs additional turning. They spawn to frequently and have you constantly at low health. This is not fun and never will be. Considering the fact it's clearly bungie isn't listening to player's. I hope the player count being so low they take attention to the uproar of its player. They maybe listening. But who are they actually hearing and why did this happen to a game that was one in a good place. Please don't keep making this game for only the top hard-core playerbase. Make this game fun again. Because the downfall started after lightfall and final shape just isn't it either.
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A lot of ppl have been saying this since lightfall that this game needs to go back and create a better new player experience and stop focusing soon much on the hardcore players even though their own devs told them that it's not sustainable and it looks like it's coming back to bite them. I know imma p*ss a lot of ppl off but the endgame got a lot of content now and it needs to stop "temporarily" it's now time to back track and start doing QOL changes to the game to draw in new and returning players.
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2 RepliesI posted a million times about how much I hated the pinnacle grind. I thought it was over, and then they added another 10 points. Not doing it anymore. Look at all the materials you need to bring everything in your vault up. It's mindless grinding. Nobody listened. Plus, even the strike playlist is a chore. They added so much time extending BS into the classic strikes. Plus of course, adding all the tedious battlegrounds maps to the playlist. nothx.
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When Pete parsons has more cars in his collection than his game has players online… 🫡😂
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2 RepliesThe game has been dying for ages. A slow motion death of mismanagement, poor leadership, and consumer-neglect. You gotta hand it to them though. They’re not even pretending to put up a fight. - Player sentiment is at an all time low - Player population is at an all time low - Even youtubers are abandoning the game - Lawsuits are on the horizon - Negative publicity is basically the only publicity - QA is virtually non existent - Cheaters are running rampant again And they acknowledge none of these points. Arrowhead is giving players free content after complaints of overpricing the Killzone stuff in Helldivers 2. Meanwhile Bungie is literally too cheap to cultivate a bit of goodwill by making [u]a Dawning event card[/u] free ONCE (after -blam!- it up in the first place). Ah well, at least there were some fun moments here and there, right?
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2 RepliesSadly no one is listening ! We had a roller coaster ten years and now it’s coming to an end . Unless Bungie have something up their sleeve 🤷🏼♂️
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Bungie did this to themselves, and personally I don’t give -blam!- if the game dies. They have decided that destiny is going to be extremely repetitive, and that all the loot you get becomes redundant within a season. Why would any gamer stick around for any significant amount of time when the developer doesn’t respect the time gamers have spent to acquire their gear?
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2 RepliesAt this point the Destiny team is basically 12 semi-competent maintenance workers and the janitor so the only things that are going to save it are: 1) Sony needs to step up and take charge of the "investment" that cost them literal billions, and 2) stop making new content for old hardware, close this chapter of Destiny and come back with D3 on PS6. Until hard choices start being made we are going to see this slow decline continue.
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They may be listening, but there's nobody to make good on it. Per the Dev Insight, they're done with creating things up to Apollo now. Unless an improved New Light Experience is part of that (unlikely), We aren't getting it. All Bungie can do for D2 right now is keep player counts up. Extending the grind is the avenue they have chosen to accomplish that. If most players are only here to chase a weapon roll and then take a break, you need to make that chase as long as possible. D2 has been, Is, and will be on life support until Marathon releases and settles. Regardless of how Marathon turns out, I don't believe D2 will ever be their main focus again.
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[quote]Game is dying. We veterans know this has so much potential. Please do something before it's too far gone 1. You Must fix new player experience. Make it a little more coherent and less overwhelming and simplify the menus 2. For old players please listen to the criticism of how grindy it is. If there is no crafting allow us to focus engrams and maybe even have a way to get guaranteed drops of perks 3. Give PVP some love. We need them in the game and heck maybe even setup a PVP tournament. They create excitement and draw people to game and PVE HOPE SOMEONE IS LISTENING[/quote] The new player experience isn’t bad anymore. It’s just not all that enticing to join a game this old. That feeling of being significantly behind is a large barrier to entry. The game really isn’t grindy. That’s the exact opposite of the issue. There is no pursuits in game right now, so why would I play. PvP does get a lot of attention these days. Lots of experimental modes, sandbox changes and new maps. A new game is needed.
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grinding isnt the issue with old players its the fact that there is a lot of things to "grind" but none of these matter and nothgn is rare anymore so you dont really feel liek chasing anything especially if said thing is going to collect dust in your vault i miss forsaken loot rarity, when everything felt desirable and hard to obtain, grind was rewarded
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People wonder how empires collapse.
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1 ReplyAll Bungie needs to do is bring back the Red War and Forsaken campaigns (and possibly the missions from all seasons, but not the activities). This would be a much better new player experience since it would actually catch people up on the story.
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Edited by Klaus_Reaper (Adept): 12/21/2024 2:29:42 AMProblem of Pvp is that all is left is veteran/try hards, so matches are sweaty as F......i remenber hardly matching any player with more than 100k pvp kills, i have 297k, now my matches are 100k, 200k, 300k, 400k, theres no casual play at control, is a sweat fest.
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They ruined the pvp experience “giving it some love” won’t do anything. Unless they revert all the changes from the last year.
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This game kicks rocks. The community is full of fat babies who beg for loot even though they’re too fat to get it. The devs and writers act like they’re all pilled out and are probably insanely fat as well. I’d kick ‘em in the nuts if it were up to me. Although they wouldn’t feel it because they’re so numbed out on pills.
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Edited by Tippstir91: 12/20/2024 8:48:29 PMThis really is the most dead the game has ever been. Trying to find groups in LFG on the app is almost impossible. It was a good run for Destiny but poor management shot itself in the foot.
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Unfortunately all the devs that made destiny what it was have either been laid off or fired, its time to find that replacement for destiny as its had its time now
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I finally removed the game this week after they deleted all my Dawning progress (last straw). I was in a clan of seventy or so and I don’t think anybody from it still plays. I have some thoughts about what led Bungie to this point but they always get me put in forum jail. I still enjoy D1, though, and when I saw a video about D2’s player count crashing I started wondering if D1 has a player count that’s now competitive with D2.
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Edited by MrBJovi: 12/20/2024 11:09:47 PMI'm going to be brutal and make the call that Bungie will be bought out by an international developer next year as Sony's acquisition and plan is failing miserably. The costs would be phenomenal for Sony and Bungie to completely fix and maintain Destiny 2 properly, especially with the genuine decline in playerbase, and people have voiced that they are NOT returning.
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The decline in playerbase is self-inflicted by Sony and Bungie. As much as it's pointless, they might as well start refunding because they sure as hell ain't delivering.
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Bungie is done. Also how can ANYONE give PvP some love when it’s a perfect representation of Vietcong scenarios
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2 RepliesGame needs saving. Bring Wrath of the Machine back. Save the game.
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1: class specific missions for new players to do for unlocking subclass elements, rewards a base kit in each light element. Said missions are given via the respective vanguard leaders: Zavala(or saint as Zav has enough menus), Ikora, and Crow. 2: Drop weapon focusing in activities. Forget it. Target farming is great for a few weeks and then I have no reason to ever engage with the content again. Focusing engrams is plenty of focus ability, and also requires engagement. If I have what I came for within a month, why would I go back? This was a mistake. Season exist for at longest a year, plenty of time. 3: Do 3(traditional 3 month) seasons a year, or two if you have to. Bungie has lost a lot of people. This means talent is no longer at the company working on things for them. I am ok with less frequent releases if it means they will be good when they drop.
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It’s simple….stop listening to the trashcan players of this game. Listen to the “elites”. Game was successful when they did that at least.
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2 RepliesAll games fade away. It's destiny's turn.
