I really like some of the Europa weapons, Artic haze, Hailing confusion, Biting wind and High albedo.
These are pretty solid weapons, but the perks is what's holding them down.
Arctic haze. Has nothing in the right column that helps it with either damage or to stand out from the rest.
Biting wind. Has one thing that makes it stand out, it got Sympathetic arsenal. Great weapon to reload slow reloading weapons. Other than that it is just another bow. Now if it could have both Explosive head and Sympathetic arsenal, then it would have been something to look at.
High albedo. Seems to be more to be used as a utility tool, Demo, Unrelenting and Wellspring. There are better options out there.
Hailing confusion. Same as High albedo, except High albedo at least has Head seeker. Hailing confusion has zero damage perks or area of effect perks. This is a shame because i really like the pulse. It feels great but with nothing to help you out, it just sucks.
Coriolis force. A unique Fusion that shoots in a horizontal pattern, but just like the other weapons, there is just nothing here. One for all is the only thing, and i guess it could be easier to hit multiple in one shot, but that is it. No unique perks that synergizes with its horizontal pattern.
Bonechiller. This ones perk pool is so confusing, it got perks for both pvp and pve in it.
The pvp roll, Slideways and Opening shot, Has the perks in the same column.
The pve perk is just not there, it has good pve perks but not for a Shotgun. One for all, Demo and Dragonfly, is just not Shotgun perks, especially for its main perks.
Thermal erosion. 900rpm Machineguns is not it right now and even if it was, all it got is Demo, Well spring and Dragonfly. Good to build up energy i guess and nothing else.
Subzero salvo. Cluster and Chain. Outdated Rocket perks. Nope nothing else to be mentioned here.
What makes the whole thing suck even more with these weapons having terrible perks. Is that they were the first new weapons we got after the Sunset, also non of them is Stasis and this is when Stasis were introduced. Not saying that they need to be Stasis, but it was just one of the missed opportunities.
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The only reason I held onto a Thermal Erosion is the absurd amount of ammo it has with Appended Mag and Backup Mag. Overall, yeah, these weapons suck. Terrible perk pools and no origin trait.
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Very cool of you to go over your perspective on the Europa world weapons... here is mine: [b]Hailing Confusion[/b] > I have a PVP godroll grinded out over many sessions (actually have kept 3).. love the feel and everything about this gun... it always performs well. If you simply let me enhance it (it may not be enough.. as I use counterbalance and there is no enhanced counterbalance + range mod that I would salivate over. I would def welcome new perks. [b]High Albedo[/b] > still trying to get a perfect barrel mag but it does slay out sometimes in PVP as it almost works perfectly w/headseeker for me.. I would welcome enhanced.. or even some more perks to choose from. [b]All other Europa weapons[/b] > very very bad.. I'll say this grinding these out after leveling Variks a bit is not bad at all as Herealways pieces drop from stasis or precision hits and you can really build a bundle and Europa is very cool with snow and blizzards.. so not terrible to farm here with a wombo combo for banshee engrams. If I was running the D2 show now and trying to consolidate players.. make it more fun.. but also reduce cost.. I would take this option on Europa (goes for a lot of places and things in the game): >> Remove the world take the useful weapons put'em in a new activity (6-person) rotator. Keep the strikes/dungeons/raids for those respective rotators.. or rotate the world in every 2 weeks in an overlapping rotator (.. you get 2 worlds a new one every week that lasts 2 weeks.. and you actually provide cool events.. and update those weapons/perks like you said.. this could have a "world/patrol vendor" as well... of course this is all in addition to providing refreshed universe-wide vendor loot, holiday/IB/Dares..etc... this all incremental to providing something brand new
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Edited by Guardian,Archon Of Light: 12/24/2024 4:32:15 AMI want to love arctic haze , but its outclassed by so many other solar autos with alot better perks Then they used its model for the seasonal Stasis auto
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It bad enough that they don’t refresh these locations with new weapons each season, but they double down by not changing the perks. After they introduce a new patrol area, they just leave it alone and forget about it. Bugs don’t get fixed and guns are forgotten.
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yea Europa weapons suck and they're attached to time consuming quests. arctic haze is the eyeball glaze of disappointment, and redumbdance.
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Not just Europa weapons but other destination weapons as well. It’d be nice to refresh the moon weapons as well. Give all destinations the same treatment Dreaming City weapons got during Wish. It’d also be nice if those and Warlord’s Ruin weapons were enhanceable.
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That is a good example of weapons that just haven't kept up with the rate of change for the rest of the game and a lot of them are quite interesting. Even when they came out only biting winds and high albedo were really any interest to me personally. And there were better sidearms than high albedo. Those weapons just barely missed out on a ton of improvements that a lot of other weapons got and it would be nice to see them reworked. Some things like the pvp perks on bonechiller being in the same column just really show that those are weapons from a different time. I've been wanting to see some of the throneworld weapons get reworked but the europa ones should probably be first in line in terms of destinations.