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12/26/2024 1:00:20 PM
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I baked 302 cookies……the analysis and results are here

And it’s not looking good Bungie! Had a little time today after Christmas, so did all 302 cookies with repeatable bounties. Below will show character, cookies baked, and gifts in return Eris 15 2 Shaw Han 15 2 Tess 16 3 Eva 15 3 Drifter 16 3 Variks 18 3 Hawthorn 15 2 Devram 13 2 Zavala 15 3 Ada 15 3 Petra 16 3 Failsafe 19 3 Saint-14 14 3 Fynch 15 4 Strider 14 3 Exo Elsie 13 2 Xur 9 1 - yes ONE!! Banshee 12 5 - best return Ikora 19 4 Shaxx 20 5 From the 304 cookies, I received a total of 59 gifts in return. That’s 19% Summary, for every 5 cookies, you will get 1 gift in return. Therefore you need 50 essence for a gift What do we think guardians?
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  • Totally stingy, the Bungie grinch stole the dawning.

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  • Oh it was easy to tell they nerfed the -blam!- out of gifts, just another way for bungie to increase play time. I’m leaving after heresy so I really don’t care anymore.

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    • Been running exclusively for emblems for over 2 weeks now. Using the vendors we're supposed to be using. Gotten -1- emblem to drop in all that time and I play dang near all day. Not even my own Vanguard. I'm beyond irritated.

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      • Edited by Spam, Kell Of Hunter Dodge: 12/27/2024 12:06:54 AM
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        Only the daring dare to dare… - 12/26/2024 11:30:59 PM

        Thats alot of cookies Hopefully the vendors get sick [spoiler]They make me fly to the tower to get my loot[/spoiler]

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      • This also relates back to the outrage over loss of crafting. Making new meaningless systems like tonics to add to a game with terrible reward structures and then removing crafting….. Man I can’t imagine why they have no players left. Can you imagine how much all this bad faith from gamers will impact their release of Marathon? Who is going to pay these developers in advance for content?

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      • for me its been one gift out of 6 or 7 cookies

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        • Yeah, looks about right, got 1 gift for every 5-6 cookies handed in. This is outrageously bad considering how much essence you have to grind for this. Tbh I just can't fathom how this is considered acceptable practice. Onslaught should have shown them that rewarding grind will be grinded. This isn't rewarding and people just don't want to engage with this kind of activities anymore.

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          • I think 1/5 is fine IF we get like 3x more essence to drop. If essence drop remains as is, I think the drop rate should be closer to 1/2 or 1/3. You get FAR less weapons than festival for the drops to be as scant as is.

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            • Happy holidays. 1 in 5 gift in retro.is average. Boons of friendship with playlists helps to a point for gift drops. Dawning emblem drops means no weapon focus.due to unwritten mechanics . Emblem drop improves near en of week. At least that is what Bungie stated in TWAB.

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            • I knew the drop rates were terrible. At first I just thought I was having bad luck.

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              • Yeah, thats about right - 1 in 5 for my deliveries too. This is the first dawning where I have just played the game and done dawning chores as an afterthought. Which is really strange as the whole idea of an event is surely to do event stuff primarily? I remember the good ole days of proper event activities rewarding event currency.

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              • I like how you have such little respect for Nimbus, you don't even refer to them by their actual name.

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                • Edited by FrenetiCreature: 12/26/2024 8:04:17 PM
                  I baked 1 cookie and was like, "Eh, I don't feel like doing this." Then I just played crucible like I always do. I just happened to be paying attention after a match and saw that I had gotten a gift. Then I went to my inventory and saw that I had a bunch of them. I opened about 10 of them and was like, "I'll do the rest later." Edit: I just checked. I have 37 left to open. You got 59 from all that work. I got around 50 from just playing (and not even realizing it at first).

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                  • well 1st I gotta give you 2 points... before taking away 17. 1. thx for tracking data 2. 1st one to actually say I used repeatable bounties -17pts > playlists drop boxes.. I get 1-2 boxes every so often in a playlist.. and one or even 2 times got 4. In Control.. say what you want about us PVPr's tryin to gun each other down... we still show holiday love with those daily boons as well... then we shoot you down. So basically I play control (yes I choose to do it) and earn spirit and essence playing it.. boxes drop.. and then I take a break and go open the box.. while I earned engrams and enhancement cores in the playlist. I can in addition take on bounties to do 5 deliveries and then go back in the list repeat cycle... folks who farm Shiro Chi.. shattered throne.. grasp of avarice..etc for nothing else?? stop farming mindless crap.. do what you want to do (chase multiple things at the same time at least) and if the game doesn't deliver in fun for you... absolutely don't do that thing. There is no one weapon that is exclusively worth your time.. but as a whole.. as a natural add-on to what you wanna do... you can have fun.

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                    • I think you have too much time on your hands lol.

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                      • These are scraps, we're not dogs.

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                      • Its just so that it keeps you grinding over these contentless holidays, otherwise you would quickly get weapons you want and be done with it, this way they keep you spending time for a hope you will finally get that avalanche with dragonfly / incandescent or whatever you really want to get. I must have spent about 15-20 gifts in return for avalanche and still didn’t get the combination of perks that I wanted,

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                        • Considering you get other rewards every time you deliver a cookie & the fact that you also get gifts from playlist activities & friendship tokens, I'm having a hard time seeing what's wrong with a 20% drop rate.

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                          • It would have been interesting to see the rolls. I keep getting headstone with lone wolf and enlightened over and over. Did get a few PvP god rolls but they know I won’t ever come off my revision zero in PvP.

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                            • Doesn't Banshee suffer from memory loss? 😂 He probably forgot what he gave us!

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                            • [quote]What do we think guardians?[/quote] I think it looks bad. I always liked The Dawning (and I always enjoyed it). But this year, the ingredients are way more complicated to get. Like in the current season, too. This "spread" isn't worth my time...

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                            • I'm right at about 20% as well, with 42 Gifts in Return. Another question: how much Dawning Spirit did you get? Because after all that, I only have 772, which is not enough to target farm with all 42 Gifts in Return (25 dawning spirit per turn-in would require 1,050 Dawning Spirit) so I might as well only have earned 30 Gifts in Return. Granted, I didn't do ALL the bounties EVERY DAY, but I did have my Starfarer equipped; my point being that there's a double bottleneck, Gifts and Essence.

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                            • Seems that Banshee obviously kept forgetting that he'd already given you a gift in return.

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                            • Then all you have to do is pray to the perk weighting gods that 59 gifts will be enough to get you that 5/5 Stay Frosty roll.

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