Neomuna was the first test zone for making normal content harder with no reward adjustments. Neomuna is hated by the majority. Bungie saw this and doubled down. They’ve tweaked the content to more annoying instead of challenging fun. It’s showing in the daily numbers.

You forgot brining back the pinnacle grind but still locking us -5 for all activities, what's the point.

That's not exactly why players left. Bungie has been telling us how to play and what they want us to play with. On top off all the bugs and glitches they don't fix. But at any point there is anything that benefits the playerbase they fix it immediately. It get ridiculous playing at no health all the time due to the amount of adds and lack of coverage in this game now. There lack of actual strikes they removed has pushed players away aswell. Battle grounds suck and should have left with the season they where introduced with. Pvp matchmaking hasn't been good the last 2yrs with whatever they did to the lobby balance.

The game became a convoluted mess. Was fun just chasing good weapon roles and fun exotic pieces. It got so needlessly complex with all the seasonal artificats, mods, exotic armours that needed a mix of everything to be efficient, using specific weapons for champions, etc. Sometimes simple is better, atleast in destiny 1 when you got that rare exotic weapon or armour you were excited to use it. Now you also need exotic armour pieces with good stat roles or it diminishes how useful it actually it is.

Been saying this for years… crafting is so bad because bungie micro manages everything you can do at the shape forge. Example: multiple hand cannons in the forge all have different selections of available perks. Instead of every perk being available for every hand cannon. 9 times out of 10 the options they give you have no synergies or god roll combos so its a complete waste of f**king time to shape them in the first place. Literally a pointless waste of time because you can get better RNG rolls. Crafting should just be removed entirely if this is how they are going to continue to handle it. Then theres the problem of layered RNG. It’s too punishing. And Bungie has purposefully bloated the perk pool with the most useless stupid perks imaginable. For no other reason than to give 90% of your drops trash rolls. So getting a good roll in this game is akin to rolling a 6 on a dice 10 times in a row. Because thats how many RNG hoops you have to clear to get one. And like you said it’s entirely possible you will never get one because of this. How I think Bungie needs to handle the game going forward: Every single weapon in game now has a shapable pattern you can farm. The RNG/grind portion of the game is now to farm patterns and materials for crafting. Different patterns are available in different activities. Patterns have a much higher drop rate than their weapons counterparts because you need 5 of them. Excess pattern drops for weapons you already unlocked are auto converted into materials. There are no more random weapon drops with random perks in the loot pool. They are all just pattern drops. Stupid useless meme perks are all removed. Once you collect 5 patterns you can craft the weapon with ANY perk combo you desire. No more “big brother Bungie says you cant have these 2 perks together because it’s too stronk and we suck -blam!- at balancing”. And finally you will be able to re-roll masterworks at the shape forge and upgrade non masterworks into masterworks.

How anyone thought “drops exciting again because RNG” is beyond me. You know what is exciting? And fun? And practical? And more rewarding? Working towards something by making visible progress, getting it, and then using it endgame. Trying things out during down time because you unlocked the pattern and can easily try different perk combos of weapons in various builds in various activities. Easily being able to try out weapons on demand that you had no real intention of seriously using while not having to save a bunch of random rolls in your vault “just in case.” Having access to something that may prove useful later when artifact mods change and buffs happen without having to save a bunch of random rolls in your vault “just in case.”

They just made things too hard in general. It’s simply NEW ideas and new things to do that’s required. Probably time for a completely new game tbf.

I don’t even care about crafting tbh,I just want to stop getting so many repeat rolls and I want exotic weapons from raids and dungeons to drop. I don’t even play unless my friends ask me to play with them simply because 1.PVP sucks rn,and 2.Ive grown disheartened because of drop rates,like why even introduce weapons into the game if we can’t even get them anyway. Dungeon and raid exotics are a scam because they straight just won’t drop,I don’t want to waste away doing the same activities over and over for stuff I can’t even get,it super frustrating that everything i want to get is up to RNG(random number generator),it turns the game into a soulless grind that does nothing but disappoint.

Unless they remove the higher ups and replace them with people that actually enjoy fun, the game will never change. Devs are out here trying to make the game great, meanwhile studio is like, “No, don’t include this awesome mechanic, or gear, just give them a reskin of this gun from year one, they’ll love it!”.

I highly doubt that all of these people left because crafting was removed. I think people just think that because conveniently as crafting was removed, other games that those people were interested in got released.

Lmao, you really believe this i bet!! Fking Hilarious Crafting killed the entire loot pool.

Also. Adept weapons lost their value, they need to be more special than they currently are. Otherwise what’s the incentive to go for them other than some very minor stat bumps. Most of the adept mods aren’t special enough either anymore.