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They’ve just been an arrogant company, and yet always needed a publisher’s help. And now it’s catching up to them

I left D2 for 2 years after the big boycott against eververse because all the “cool” armor was locked behind a paywall. Everything earned in game was just awful and not good whatsoever. With everything happening and how Bungie has treated us it’s bringing back memories again.

Im only going to say something about Eververse. Everyone seems to forget the lie we were told. I still remember the very day they sold the whisper of the worm skins, 2 of them with the statement that it would be used to pay for the exotic missions as they had just released Zero Hour. How did that go?

It's because of no sparrow horns, if they added sparrow horns, daily player count would be in the millions

I'm returning the same respect : I couldn't give AF.

Honestly Eververse is the least of my concerns. And if it looked bad you wouldn’t but it so it makes sense that they put nice looking stuff in there. The problem is that they haven’t given me content or even a good grind that would make them deserve my money since the Witch Queen year. Final Shape was good but everything after is unfortunate.

Ya sorry man they dont care. We told them it would and they just didnt care

“The real reason destiny is dying”.. Bungie was done with the ip they created back in 2017 when they signed a new contract for another game. Their hopes were that Activision would buy/take the ip over… perhaps with confidence.. And nope. Activision not only did not want the financial responsibility of destiny… but they also saw Bungie had nothing ready to go after declining to do so. Story ends here. Everything following bungie’s decision to keep destiny 2 alive is due to the fact they were done with destiny but decided to keep going. Bungie was in too deep with everything they had set up to become a major game developing company… They needed an income. Destiny 2 is a round table of pitches while trying to budget the game.

Thing is, EV wouldn’t matter if the content was better. So it’s not ev but lack of actual enjoyable game content which I blame players for as well: You settle for garbage and heap praise on emblem rewards then wonder why they don’t see a need to make better content and a reward worth the time and effort. You settle for scraps and that’s what you’ll get more of

Partially true. Bungie has concluded that time played equals micros purchased…. Time played, unfortunately doesn’t equal quality time. Instead of focusing on quality to engage players, they focused on manipulation such as SBMM/EOMM on the PVP side, and FOMO on the PVE side to strong arm engagement. This sacrifice of quality has led to people walking away. The “silent majority” who Bungie defenders claim quietly enjoy the experience without complaint, are the same players who are abandoning the game for less buggy and time wasting, repetitive games. Destiny has always, in all of its past iterations, good or bad, was always a quality product. Today, you can’t say that, with seasons releasing half baked and full of, in some cases, game halting bugs.

[quote]**10+ Reasons Eververse Microtransactions Are Hurting Destiny 2** Eververse, Bungie's in-game store for cosmetic and premium items, has long been a point of contention among Destiny 2 players. While it provides a revenue stream to support game development, its implementation has raised concerns about its impact on the game and its community. Here are the key reasons many players feel Eververse is detrimental to Destiny 2: --- ### 1. **Shifts Developer Priorities** Resources are seemingly allocated to designing Eververse content, such as ornaments, shaders, and emotes, instead of improving core gameplay elements or creating meaningful in-game rewards. This creates an impression that monetization trumps player satisfaction. --- ### 2. **Devalues In-Game Rewards** Players often feel in-game rewards pale in comparison to Eververse offerings. Weapons, armor sets, and shaders earned through gameplay frequently lack the polish or creativity of cosmetics sold through the Eververse store. --- ### 3. **Fosters a Pay-to-Look-Good Culture** The most visually appealing items are locked behind a paywall, leaving free-to-play or budget-conscious players feeling excluded from fully personalizing their characters. --- ### 4. **Reduces Incentives to Play** With cosmetics primarily available for purchase, the grind for loot in activities like raids, dungeons, or seasonal events feels less rewarding. Historically, unique ornaments or armor sets were earned through gameplay milestones, which encouraged engagement. --- ### 5. **Seasonal Content Dependency** Eververse's monetization is heavily tied to seasonal content, with the shop often overshadowing the seasonal activities themselves. Players might feel that seasons are structured to funnel them toward the store rather than meaningful gameplay loops. --- ### 6. **Creates FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)** Eververse frequently uses time-limited items, pressuring players to purchase immediately or risk losing access indefinitely. This can feel manipulative and lead to frustration among the player base. --- ### 7. **Dilutes Destiny’s Identity** The influx of overly stylized and thematic cosmetics (e.g., crossover events, exaggerated emotes, or pop-culture references) can detract from the immersive sci-fi-fantasy aesthetic that defines Destiny. --- ### 8. **Locks Premium Currency Behind Paywalls** The currency required for Eververse items (Silver) must be purchased with real money, and free alternatives (Bright Dust) are often insufficient to acquire desirable items without significant grinding. --- ### 9. **Monetizes Holiday and Community Events** Events like the Festival of the Lost or Dawning are centered around Eververse, turning what should be community-building celebrations into a sales opportunity. Players may feel less connected to these events as a result. --- ### 10. **Stifles Free-to-Play Experience** Free-to-play players often encounter constant reminders of what they can't access without spending money. This divide can make new players feel like second-class citizens compared to paying customers. --- ### 11. **Focuses on Cosmetics Over Content** While Eververse updates are consistent and plentiful, new strikes, crucible maps, or other substantive content releases lag far behind, leading to dissatisfaction with the game’s overall direction. --- ### 12. **Exploits Long-Term Players** Longtime players who’ve invested significant time in the game often feel exploited by Eververse. Many of these players expect Bungie to prioritize content improvements rather than leaning on their loyalty for microtransaction revenue. --- ### 13. **Reinforces Negative Industry Trends** Eververse normalizes predatory monetization practices in gaming, such as aggressive pricing and limited-time offers, which erode trust between players and developers. --- ### 14. **Impacts Perception of Bungie's Integrity** While Bungie has made efforts to justify Eververse as necessary to fund ongoing development, players often feel this is at odds with the game’s AAA price point and recurring expansion fees, creating skepticism around the studio’s motives. --- ### 15. **Limits Community Customization** Community creativity is stifled when the most attractive customization options are behind a paywall. Shared themes or "matching fireteam" looks are less feasible when not all players have access to the same items. --- While Eververse provides financial support for Destiny 2's continued development, its perceived overreach into the game’s ecosystem has led to significant community dissatisfaction. Addressing these issues would not only foster goodwill but also reinforce the connection between Bungie and its player base.[/quote] #### 16. You forgot toxic elitist players that want everyone to know the raid better than the devs that made it, or kick. #### 17. Also toxic players that scream at you and kick you for making a single mistake... #### 18. Oh yeah toxic players that demand you have a microphone and carry them through the raid, when they themselves dont have a mic or speak. #### 19. finally toxic players that say use this weapon or kick! But then they kick you before you can even open your inventory to change items.

I love getting for free = bright dust what those pay $$ for

Eververse is only 1% of issues troubling destiny 2, I hate that it's there, but it is not killing the game Most players ignore it, Some save up bright dust and wait patiently for items to become available for bright dust. Some items will never be available such as finishers, emotes and element armour sets, perhaps one day bungie might offer those too. Eververse ain't killing the game, if anything it's keeping the lights on. Very few people spend there and be grateful that they do.

Although the things you mentioned to play a factor, I think the biggest reason is hollow, heartless content. It feels like they have been phoning it in for a while now.

Monetization is not what's ruining destiny. Especially with the season pass free cosmetics recently. It definitely has everything to do with the loot structure. And how they treat new players.

Could not care less about the stuff she sells. Sure, some of it looks cool, but it’s not going to take that boss down any faster, help me jump further, or give me more power. It’s just cosmetics. Whoop de doo. If someone wants to spend their money on worthless items. That’s on them. But it’s not a problem within the game…. Especially not a top priority problem.

Eververse is a non issue... stop beating a dead horse lol What's killing the game is all the bugs and server issues. Half baked uninspired content loops. On a list of top 50 things wrong with this game right now eververse doesn't even make that list.

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