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1/7/2025 11:08:57 AM
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The Real Reason Destiny 2 is Dying.

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Don't Care.

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**10+ Reasons Eververse Microtransactions Are Hurting Destiny 2** Eververse, Bungie's in-game store for cosmetic and premium items, has long been a point of contention among Destiny 2 players. While it provides a revenue stream to support game development, its implementation has raised concerns about its impact on the game and its community. Here are the key reasons many players feel Eververse is detrimental to Destiny 2: --- ### 1. **Shifts Developer Priorities** Resources are seemingly allocated to designing Eververse content, such as ornaments, shaders, and emotes, instead of improving core gameplay elements or creating meaningful in-game rewards. This creates an impression that monetization trumps player satisfaction. --- ### 2. **Devalues In-Game Rewards** Players often feel in-game rewards pale in comparison to Eververse offerings. Weapons, armor sets, and shaders earned through gameplay frequently lack the polish or creativity of cosmetics sold through the Eververse store. --- ### 3. **Fosters a Pay-to-Look-Good Culture** The most visually appealing items are locked behind a paywall, leaving free-to-play or budget-conscious players feeling excluded from fully personalizing their characters. --- ### 4. **Reduces Incentives to Play** With cosmetics primarily available for purchase, the grind for loot in activities like raids, dungeons, or seasonal events feels less rewarding. Historically, unique ornaments or armor sets were earned through gameplay milestones, which encouraged engagement. --- ### 5. **Seasonal Content Dependency** Eververse's monetization is heavily tied to seasonal content, with the shop often overshadowing the seasonal activities themselves. Players might feel that seasons are structured to funnel them toward the store rather than meaningful gameplay loops. --- ### 6. **Creates FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)** Eververse frequently uses time-limited items, pressuring players to purchase immediately or risk losing access indefinitely. This can feel manipulative and lead to frustration among the player base. --- ### 7. **Dilutes Destiny’s Identity** The influx of overly stylized and thematic cosmetics (e.g., crossover events, exaggerated emotes, or pop-culture references) can detract from the immersive sci-fi-fantasy aesthetic that defines Destiny. --- ### 8. **Locks Premium Currency Behind Paywalls** The currency required for Eververse items (Silver) must be purchased with real money, and free alternatives (Bright Dust) are often insufficient to acquire desirable items without significant grinding. --- ### 9. **Monetizes Holiday and Community Events** Events like the Festival of the Lost or Dawning are centered around Eververse, turning what should be community-building celebrations into a sales opportunity. Players may feel less connected to these events as a result. --- ### 10. **Stifles Free-to-Play Experience** Free-to-play players often encounter constant reminders of what they can't access without spending money. This divide can make new players feel like second-class citizens compared to paying customers. --- ### 11. **Focuses on Cosmetics Over Content** While Eververse updates are consistent and plentiful, new strikes, crucible maps, or other substantive content releases lag far behind, leading to dissatisfaction with the game’s overall direction. --- ### 12. **Exploits Long-Term Players** Longtime players who’ve invested significant time in the game often feel exploited by Eververse. Many of these players expect Bungie to prioritize content improvements rather than leaning on their loyalty for microtransaction revenue. --- ### 13. **Reinforces Negative Industry Trends** Eververse normalizes predatory monetization practices in gaming, such as aggressive pricing and limited-time offers, which erode trust between players and developers. --- ### 14. **Impacts Perception of Bungie's Integrity** While Bungie has made efforts to justify Eververse as necessary to fund ongoing development, players often feel this is at odds with the game’s AAA price point and recurring expansion fees, creating skepticism around the studio’s motives. --- ### 15. **Limits Community Customization** Community creativity is stifled when the most attractive customization options are behind a paywall. Shared themes or "matching fireteam" looks are less feasible when not all players have access to the same items. --- While Eververse provides financial support for Destiny 2's continued development, its perceived overreach into the game’s ecosystem has led to significant community dissatisfaction. Addressing these issues would not only foster goodwill but also reinforce the connection between Bungie and its player base.

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  • Eververse is a factor but the subpar quality of the game ever since lightfall is a real problem

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    • [quote]**10+ Reasons Eververse Microtransactions Are Hurting Destiny 2** Eververse, Bungie's in-game store for cosmetic and premium items, has long been a point of contention among Destiny 2 players. While it provides a revenue stream to support game development, its implementation has raised concerns about its impact on the game and its community. Here are the key reasons many players feel Eververse is detrimental to Destiny 2: --- ### 1. **Shifts Developer Priorities** Resources are seemingly allocated to designing Eververse content, such as ornaments, shaders, and emotes, instead of improving core gameplay elements or creating meaningful in-game rewards. This creates an impression that monetization trumps player satisfaction. --- ### 2. **Devalues In-Game Rewards** Players often feel in-game rewards pale in comparison to Eververse offerings. Weapons, armor sets, and shaders earned through gameplay frequently lack the polish or creativity of cosmetics sold through the Eververse store. --- ### 3. **Fosters a Pay-to-Look-Good Culture** The most visually appealing items are locked behind a paywall, leaving free-to-play or budget-conscious players feeling excluded from fully personalizing their characters. --- ### 4. **Reduces Incentives to Play** With cosmetics primarily available for purchase, the grind for loot in activities like raids, dungeons, or seasonal events feels less rewarding. Historically, unique ornaments or armor sets were earned through gameplay milestones, which encouraged engagement. --- ### 5. **Seasonal Content Dependency** Eververse's monetization is heavily tied to seasonal content, with the shop often overshadowing the seasonal activities themselves. Players might feel that seasons are structured to funnel them toward the store rather than meaningful gameplay loops. --- ### 6. **Creates FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)** Eververse frequently uses time-limited items, pressuring players to purchase immediately or risk losing access indefinitely. This can feel manipulative and lead to frustration among the player base. --- ### 7. **Dilutes Destiny’s Identity** The influx of overly stylized and thematic cosmetics (e.g., crossover events, exaggerated emotes, or pop-culture references) can detract from the immersive sci-fi-fantasy aesthetic that defines Destiny. --- ### 8. **Locks Premium Currency Behind Paywalls** The currency required for Eververse items (Silver) must be purchased with real money, and free alternatives (Bright Dust) are often insufficient to acquire desirable items without significant grinding. --- ### 9. **Monetizes Holiday and Community Events** Events like the Festival of the Lost or Dawning are centered around Eververse, turning what should be community-building celebrations into a sales opportunity. Players may feel less connected to these events as a result. --- ### 10. **Stifles Free-to-Play Experience** Free-to-play players often encounter constant reminders of what they can't access without spending money. This divide can make new players feel like second-class citizens compared to paying customers. --- ### 11. **Focuses on Cosmetics Over Content** While Eververse updates are consistent and plentiful, new strikes, crucible maps, or other substantive content releases lag far behind, leading to dissatisfaction with the game’s overall direction. --- ### 12. **Exploits Long-Term Players** Longtime players who’ve invested significant time in the game often feel exploited by Eververse. Many of these players expect Bungie to prioritize content improvements rather than leaning on their loyalty for microtransaction revenue. --- ### 13. **Reinforces Negative Industry Trends** Eververse normalizes predatory monetization practices in gaming, such as aggressive pricing and limited-time offers, which erode trust between players and developers. --- ### 14. **Impacts Perception of Bungie's Integrity** While Bungie has made efforts to justify Eververse as necessary to fund ongoing development, players often feel this is at odds with the game’s AAA price point and recurring expansion fees, creating skepticism around the studio’s motives. --- ### 15. **Limits Community Customization** Community creativity is stifled when the most attractive customization options are behind a paywall. Shared themes or "matching fireteam" looks are less feasible when not all players have access to the same items. --- While Eververse provides financial support for Destiny 2's continued development, its perceived overreach into the game’s ecosystem has led to significant community dissatisfaction. Addressing these issues would not only foster goodwill but also reinforce the connection between Bungie and its player base.[/quote] #### 16. You forgot toxic elitist players that want everyone to know the raid better than the devs that made it, or kick. #### 17. Also toxic players that scream at you and kick you for making a single mistake... #### 18. Oh yeah toxic players that demand you have a microphone and carry them through the raid, when they themselves dont have a mic or speak. #### 19. finally toxic players that say use this weapon or kick! But then they kick you before you can even open your inventory to change items.

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    • I love getting for free = bright dust what those pay $$ for

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    • Eververse is only 1% of issues troubling destiny 2, I hate that it's there, but it is not killing the game Most players ignore it, Some save up bright dust and wait patiently for items to become available for bright dust. Some items will never be available such as finishers, emotes and element armour sets, perhaps one day bungie might offer those too. Eververse ain't killing the game, if anything it's keeping the lights on. Very few people spend there and be grateful that they do.

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    • Although the things you mentioned to play a factor, I think the biggest reason is hollow, heartless content. It feels like they have been phoning it in for a while now.

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    • Edited by Zoidberg: 1/7/2025 5:06:14 PM
      Monetization is not what's ruining destiny. Especially with the season pass free cosmetics recently. It definitely has everything to do with the loot structure. And how they treat new players.

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    • Edited by RaineyDazed: 1/7/2025 4:40:08 PM
      Disagree, Eververse has been here since D1. The problem is $hit content. The seasonal model is trash and then it all disappears after a year and put into the vault with the entire beginning of the game I paid for which is a trashy way to do business.

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      • Dying because it's the conclusion. Most gamers stayed for the ending of the saga, d3 is the only remedy

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        • Without eververse the game would have already shut down. Destiny isn't the financial golden egg some people think it is.

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          • Could not care less about the stuff she sells. Sure, some of it looks cool, but it’s not going to take that boss down any faster, help me jump further, or give me more power. It’s just cosmetics. Whoop de doo. If someone wants to spend their money on worthless items. That’s on them. But it’s not a problem within the game…. Especially not a top priority problem.

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          • Edited by cryptic_king_241: 1/7/2025 3:57:55 PM
            Blaming eververse is a cop out excuse, the reason is lack of competent game play programmers and their own testers and a complete lack of common sense among them when adding new content to update everything related to it. They sign off on the job before it's finished and move on, pushing literally everything "to be released now, we'll deal with whatever problems later". Eventually that todo list piles up and they're overloaded aggravating the costumer base to a breaking point. 2nd reason is the story essentially came to an end with the darkness' forces. 3rd and biggest reason is the voice/text chat thing where they disable it on their end until you manually update your personal info. Personally I blame that dipshit kid Bungie sued at the end of 2023 for treating the game like it's Minecraft and hacked the game to use custom textures that then declared, in their defense, in a court of law, that their beginning user agreement is void because of them not being of age of consent to agree to it.

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            • Edited by LikwiD_SmOkE22: 1/8/2025 12:17:31 AM
              Eververse is a non issue... stop beating a dead horse lol What's killing the game is all the bugs and server issues. Half baked uninspired content loops. On a list of top 50 things wrong with this game right now eververse doesn't even make that list.

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            • Edited by Aetherial Remnant: 1/8/2025 1:44:01 AM
              ( plays violin 🎻 and offers wine 🍷)

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            • Just wait for Bungie’s annual “we’re listening and we’re sorry,” post. It will all get better after that! You’ll see! Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me ten or more times, shame on me!

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            • There are multiple reasons Destiny 2 is dying and pinning it to just one goes beyond oversimplification.

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              • The real reason destiny is dying is all the posts saying “The real reason destiny is dying”

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              • Idk I’m convinced it has a lot to do with the down fall of PvP . While the majority of the game is Pve , PvP used to be good enough to hold players during the end of seasons when people have finished the pve content. Since PvP has a lot of issues between obnoxious abilities/ terrible connections/ terrible match making / and now long wait times from player loss it’s easier to play other games and abandon Destiny since destiny has abandoned the players

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              • So the real reason is 15 reasons.

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              • Bro got personal beef with Eververse lol

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              • So what's your solution?

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              • Edited by megatron1984: 1/7/2025 2:42:06 PM
                I don't spend money in eververse, so I disagree with your post. If it's sold with bright dust, that's a different story.

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              • Could you add an option that states 'I agree with these points, but there are more reasons the game isn't doing well' because that's how I feel, that there is SO MUCH this game has, doesn't have, could do, doesn't do, shows you, doesn't show you, which all piles up I'll have to press the disagree option for now, but not because I disagree with the points, but because it's not [i]*the*[/i] reason destiny is dying

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                • Pp poll

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                • You make a number of good points but I think Eververse is one amongst many reasons for the current state of the game.

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