Salvation's Edge is my favorite raid that i don't get to do. I only LFG for 1st & Witness encounter... It makes sense why the raid is so hard, this isn't some strike boss or some puny dreg. We are literally going up against the "End of the Universe" and the one perpetrating it. The encounters are fun & engaging, LOTS of multitasking and working together, super fast paced. No room for error (almost). LFG is the main culprit here, a lot of people don't want to learn mechanics, some people don't care and will talk over you while you teach. [u]It gets worse the more complicated the raid....[/u] (as someone who babysits/handholds people through the encounter giving them hands on practice, Salvations Edge has many parts where it is very difficult to do that... Each person needs to be competent and capable and learn quick unfortunately...) [b]Raid experiences:[/b] [spoiler]Rhulk encounter nobody knows symbols even with dual destiny being out. Its hard to have people know callouts, and do something as simple as step on a plate and off a plate when you have/lose a buff. Crown of Sorrow: Nobody would pay attention to their timer to swap buffs. The parkour section on LFG was not great either. Scourge of the Past: a lot of people would screw up the CAP alignment during damage phase, (Ie: get a buff, "c" "a" or "p"...Stand next to the same player...if you don't less damage & damages nearby players...) Crota's end is straight forward but Ir Yut in particular LFG's struggle against. Garden of Salvation: Super easy, but people do not work together & raid is SUPER buggy. Shame since its my favorite raid. Root of Nightmares started the trend of I don't have to learn anything and people will do it for me...This is just a beginner level raid. VoG: People struggle on Gatekeeper & Atheon...People do not call out oracles or shoot them..., people do not know how to juggle relic/ do not want to & [u]struggle staying alive in the portal room... (valid)[/u][/spoiler] All of these issues in the spoiler section contribute to how LFG has been over the years... and why a raid LIKE salvations edge is so unapproachable for casual LFG players. Instead of 1 mechanic its 2-3 all at once. instead of 1-3 jobs you have 6 or 7 jobs to do within the mechanic. If its a regularly occurring pattern where people aren't able to swap buffs or stand in the right location at the right time or make callouts over the years... then yea you're gonna experience this [i]so much more[/i] in the hardest raid in the game.