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Edited by MoNki: 1/13/2025 6:40:59 PM
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Stop Calling It “Soft Cheating” – Cheating Is Cheating

The rise of input manipulation devices (IMDs) in Destiny’s PvP community is an issue we can no longer ignore. These tools exploit aim assist and input behaviors, providing users with unfair advantages, yet some people casually dismiss them as “soft cheats.” This term minimizes the harm caused and creates a dangerous precedent by normalizing cheating in a game that thrives on competitive integrity. Let’s be clear: cheating is cheating, regardless of whether it’s a wallhack, an aimbot, or an input manipulation device. Anything that enhances gameplay beyond a player’s natural skill level is a violation of fair play. The more we label these devices as “less bad,” the more we encourage players to adopt them, eroding trust and sportsmanship in Destiny’s PvP. Bungie needs to act decisively, banning IMDs outright. Other games have implemented strict measures against these devices, and Destiny must follow suit to protect the community. It’s also on streamers and community leaders to stop calling IMDs “soft cheats,” as this language downplays the seriousness of their impact and sends the wrong message to their audiences. The community must take a stand. Report cheating, avoid downplaying the issue, and demand stronger anti-cheat measures. There’s no gray area—cheating in any form undermines the game we all love. Let’s ensure Destiny’s PvP remains a true test of skill, not manipulation. EDIT: If you mention the names of the cheats or how they work, you get instantly banned from the forum. EDIT: To ban these players, you literally just need to go to youtube and watch their demo videos. The names and contacts are there in front of you!
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  • Edited by NotCreative123: 1/13/2025 7:46:55 PM
    [b]1) Prioritizing Cheats [/b] Cheating is cheating, but it makes sense to target the most egregious cheats first. For example, I can't necessarily tell when someone is using a 3rd party device, but I can IMMEDIATELY tell if someone is flying around the map with infinite heavy ammo. Even though both are cheats, one has a more significant impact on the game outcome. Bungie should fix one before fixing the other. [b]2) Difficulty to Detect [/b] I don't know how these kinds of cheats are being banned in other games, but I was under the impression that 3rd party hardware is difficult to detect. We cannot hold Bungie to a different standard than we hold the rest of the gaming industry. [b]3) Misinformation Regarding 3rd Party Devices[/b] Lots of players attribute things to 3rd party hardware when it is likely not (or at least, not likely to be) the culprit. Not many players seem to understand how they function, so there is a lot of paranoia and false reports. I wish players would educate themselves on how these devices work, so they can better protect themselves and the game. STOP BLAMING EVERY LOSS ON CHEATING [b]4) Where is the line?[/b] Lots of things give a player an advantage. A better monitor, a better PC, a better controller will all help the player A LOT in PVP. Why are these things allowed but 3rd party hardware is not? (I am simply playing Devil's Advocate - imo, the answer is that the only distinction is that Bungie said it is cheating) [b]5) Down With Cheaters [/b] I added this for clarity, because the above statements make it sound like I countenance cheating, and I do not. Cheaters should be banned no matter what, because the game would be better with no Cheaters. Period. I don't even understand why cheating companies are allowed to exist as they are. It seems like they should be illegal

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