Why don’t they just release a D2: Extreme Hardcore Sweaty Tryhards Edition where they get no exotic weapons and only get blue drops capped at 390 Power Level with all content being a minimum 3000 power level? That oughta shut them up.

Most of us have jobs and can't play all day.

Wait, who is the toxic one here ? He told you to get better at the game rather then just ask for things for free, and you called him a no-lifer for actually playing the harder content. To me it sounds like you are the toxic one here.

Bit cope believing that all they listen to is elitists but the rest is pretty much ye

I see the coping of people who think it's all about showing off and looking better than everyone else when it's not even close to that. Destiny is a hobby and a highly fun game to play with a variety of builds. To assume that someone has nothing going on with their life because they're good at a game is the definition of coping because you think that most "elites" even THINK about the players beneath them and not the tasks they want to do. Unless someone specifically shows it, most high end players aren't "elitists", they WANT you in endgame. No one plays this game to specifically to show off. They're just playing the game how it's designed to be played. A miniscule amount of people actually act like this. Most of us want players to learn and come join us and do more of the content. We want people to use Fireteam finder and have a culture that has a rich list of people who are raid ready in it. Filled with people who played the game like everyone else did to be raid ready. And if you don't want to put in the time (which you probably did ANYWAY because seasonal weapons are good nowadays) then you don't get the rewards. I don't understand the mentality to see players who get high end content done and then NOT follow what they're doing because those same hardcore players have been in your shoes. But instead of complaining, they looked for like-minded individuals in LFG. And when they started and got over their anxiety or whatever personal thing that was stopping them, they realized it's not that difficult. Many people blow raiding out of proportion. They don't see knowledge as something valuable. So there aren't any practice parties like there are in FFXIV. This is content you LEARN. That's the purpose of it. Anyone could do it if they just try. And I don't believe people's anecdotal bad Fireteams. Of course you're going to find bad apples, but I still don't understand why people who are solo or say endgame is too hard just doesn't get together with the same people. I don't understand why everyone is looking to have the "elites" be the one to pick them up instead of people who are in the same situation as them. I don't understand why they don't practice. Ever since Garden of Salvation, I have been doing this with my static team for years. Learning as we go. Laughing and having fun. I don't get why people don't do this. I say this while being someone who worked full time at a nursing home BTW We got a lot of stuff done. Said we were never going to get Rivensbane. We got Rivensbane. Said we were never going to do a day 1. We have 2 under our belts. Hardest of the hard stuff and we got it done. I had fun with them. So if my full time working, (during the pandemic) busy butt can do it, so can you. And that's on the basis of normal raids. Not even the hardest of the hard things. Basic. Normal raids.

Toxicity is spread pretty evenly across all skill levels in Destiny, and there are people with good attitudes at every level as well It is wild how you had an interaction with 1 person and painted an entire group as "toxic" as a result

Ok, I get your point but I personally believe the toxicity is from every side of the community, some casuals want raid loot not in raids(which that shouldn’t be a thing), but I agree that the game should not be so hard you need broken builds or teammates to survive but idk how bungie can balance both hardcore and casual(I’m kinda both) but maybe frontiers can fix it…hopefully

This game really isn't hard, we can't cater to people who can barely play, or are very unskilled. Neither can it be catered to those with limitless time to play.

They have a point though. The majority of players on here complaining the game is hard don’t have anything resembling a build. Admittedly, they didn’t have to be rude about.

There will always be those who try to make themselves taller by standing on top of, or holding down others. Don’t waste your time or energy on them. Offer them your sympathy and move on.

Wow this guy got so tilted from a reply he made a whole post about it

Many high guardian ranked players seem to think that because others don’t have the same number they are trash and can be treated as such; but with that said some of the most amazing, thoughtful, dedicated, and respectful players are also those same high ranked guardians. People forget that not everyone has to be like them or do what they do to have fun. Otherwise everyone in the world would have fentanyl addictions because some people REALLY like it.

Take your own advice and play an easier game to suit your needs. This game has easy content and more challenging content. Just because you want to relax doesn’t mean that they should make the challenging content a breeze for people like you. Im a pretty good player but even then I realise that there are people who are much better and put more time into it. And for that, it is fair that they can have rewards to show off for it. Whether it is emblems, exotic loot or a title.

I'm not elitist one bit but I'm still toxic as f. I got 2 weeks xbox communications ban recently for calling the French people names. I think they deserved it but that's debatable. As for difficulty I think Destiny is in line with the recent games. Sadly. I played through all the Dark Souls and stuff and did challenge runs on DS2 (it was my baby) back in 2015-2016. Now I'm old and not much of a player but I've done a couple solo dungeons. They are too long imo. The bosses should scale health with the fireteam. Easy solution. Nobody wants to spend almost an hour on a boss just to fall of the map (happened to me). I haven't done many raids but they just seem to get more complicated after another. I remember Y1 I played with regular gamers and it took A LONG time to coach them through Leviathan. The (potential) player base isn't any different from now to then. That's why the raid completions are so low. Have you tried lfg? It's a coin toss. I actually lost 3 real life friends from Destiny because they found this game was getting too hard for them. They quit. Some quit 6 years ago some 3. All previous Destiny 1 players. Not the happiest moment of my life. Btw, wtf is going on with the crucible and gambit matchmaking xD Is it emblem based? Because almost every game I see 1% emblems just because I have one. It's crazy. Or maybe it's only the 1% players playing anymore -_-