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3/5/2025 6:06:54 PM
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Thundercrash and Fist of Havoc feel really bad in PvP
Ignoring the invis Redrix’s spam at the moment, (cause that’s a whole other conversation that I’m sure everyone is aware of at this point) the arc titan supers just don’t feel good in pvp.
Thundercrash feels like paper mache, honestly feels like too much glass, not enough cannon. Not sure what can’t one shot it at this point.
Fist of Havoc just feels bad, especially compared to something like Spectral Blades. I don’t use this one as much so I can’t as easily explain what bothers me about it.
Am I typing this after spending the last several days trying to get through Adept? Yes. Comp is arguably the worst it’s ever been and this is the most difficult time I’ve ever had trying to reach Ascendant.
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I honestly don't fly at players when using Thundercrash. I aim at the area between them and fly downward.
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It's suppose to?...
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1 ReplyI am below average at PvP but regularly get 3-5 kills per Fist of Havoc Super in 6v6. The secret is just to get kills by jumping and slamming down, I do not shoulder charge with it at all because it uses too much energy per kill. So big jump at the start, then activate Fist of Havoc to come down and get first 2 kills with that first landing. Then there is enough energy left for another few strategic jumps using the radar. Definitely got a 5 kill with it recently
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Strongest class/subclass in the game should also not have the best super.
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Couldn't disagree more about thundercrash, given that it now has a little counterplay where you used to be basically invincible. Fists has been bad since they nerfed it after it's stupid long reign of being broken as hell. I'd be okay with a small buff to it.
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FoH still feels bad in PvE too.
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1 ReplyMost melee based supers suck in PVP.
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3 RepliesCrash is cheeks now but I think fists of havoc is better. You can use the slam like a shutdown and the movement is fast.
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Thundercrash I've never really been into. Fist of Havoc tho is an awesome super. You can frequently get multi kills with it 👊🏻⚡ Just don't pop it too far away from your target 😁
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Thundercrash can be hard to use in areas with wonky corners, but is fine IMO. Can be easy to bamboozle and dodge but anyone who’s skilled with it should have no issue killing and even getting multi kills by skimming with it. Fist of Havoc on the other hand hasn’t been good in PvP for several years now. It just feels like a worse Glacial Quake. GQ has [b]superman[/b] level speed, great CC and good hit registration, as well as sending other supers to space when they get hit. FoH has none of these things but DOES have a good AoE kill with the slam. If it OSK’d other supers it would be on par with GQ. I really don’t know how they could buff FoH that would be meaningful but not OP. Maybe make the shoulder charge in the super jolt everything round it? Idk honestly
