PvP in destiny has never been good Year 1: too slow, game still wasnt competitive despite best efforts, ruined the fun Forsaken and shadowkeep: 150 hand cannon and shotgun quickdraw glitch reign of terror, fun for good players but this was peak hand cannon oppression and most hated it. i enjoyed this the most by far and this was the highest skillgap meta but lets be real this was not balanced at all Beyond light and witch queen: game is slowed down again, quickdraw glitch fixed, hand cannons still insanely strong as 120s are patched in, stasis broken overpowered for months, dead mans tale game breaking for months Lightfall: Peacekeeper SMG reign of terror, on my soul no one enjoyed this except sweats and cheaters. Strand clones at the end Final shape: Prismatic hunter, strand clones, elsies rifle at the start. Now invis hunter, redrix, 120s, slugs When was any of this fun or good? Please point me to a time period lol. The only thing that was maybe objectively better in early d2 was that more people were bad, and as the game has been out for so long, games feel sweaty because everyone is solid or better. The game itself isnt any worse now than it has been