Yes, I hate them, too. If I play anything in the game and get to a timer, I usually continue and see if I can finish it. If I can't I quit and often don't play it again. I'm a solo player and I can't stand all the artificial difficulty stuff Bungie have forced into Destiny in the latest years. I haven't played Destiny 2 for awhile, and it is because of timers, potions/recipes, and all other time sinking stupid ideas Bungie have crammed into Destiny 2. They shoud instead have focused of making an interesting game, with interesting worlds to explore, fast paced action, interesting and intelligent stories, side stories, good loot, a game where you can sit down and play for half and hour and feel you have accomplished something. Now it is all about time sinking and incredible long and ardous missions you have to spend hours in. If you don't make it, you have to redo everything from start. I just don't bother anymore. I'll read up on the new release and see if it is worth it. I have supported Destiny from D1 day 1, bought all the expansions, but I think personally, that Destiny 2 in this state is in it's all time low.