[quote]My last post is gone, weird, so here’s a new one. I get it — communication can be tricky, and not being able to easily connect with your clan can be frustrating. But making Discord mandatory to join a clan can end up excluding players who simply want to be part of a community. What should be a simple, welcoming process now feels more like a hiring resume. Long application forms Required Discord use Raid logs, class roles, and time zones Layers of rules and approval steps This isn’t about being anti-Discord — it’s about forced participation. Discord is a great tool for people who choose to use it. But when it’s made a requirement just to join a clan, that’s exclusion, not community-building. Some players deal with social anxiety. Some want to protect their privacy. Some just don’t want to juggle another platform. All of that is valid — but making Discord mandatory puts up a barrier for no good reason. And no — “you don’t have to join a clan” isn’t a real counterargument. Clans are a core part of how Destiny 2 is meant to be played. If access to that system is being bottlenecked by third-party gatekeeping, that’s a design issue Bungie needs to pay more attention to. Here’s what they could do to help: * Add better/more in-game communication tools (a chat channel system, group announcements, etc.) * Provide clearer clan discovery and matchmaking options that don’t require off-platform steps (clan filters like “Discord optional” or “no mics required”) * Set standards for clan listings that discourage excessive entry barriers To be clear: clans that offer Discord as an option — where players can choose to engage — are being inclusive and respectful. That’s totally reasonable. It’s only when it becomes a requirement that it crosses a line. And let’s be honest — we all know that the clans making Discord mandatory are usually the ones running massive clan networks with hundreds of tags under their umbrella. At that point, it’s not really about community anymore; it’s about scale. If you’re managing that many clans, you’re not trying to build a welcoming community — you’re chasing numbers. And that’s fine if that’s your goal, but don’t pretend it's about fostering connection when the systems you require actively push people away. Paragon: Think about how matchmaking works in Nightfalls or Crucible. You don’t have to fill out a form, join a server, or explain your playstyle just to run a strike. You press a button, get paired with others, and go. It’s not perfect, but it works because the barrier to entry is low and the goal is shared. Clans should aim for that same energy. When participation is based on shared interest — not strict requirements — you get more natural connection, better vibes, and a wider range of people who actually want to be there, not just those who are willing to jump through hoops. When barriers like mandatory Discord use prevent some players from joining clans, it limits the community’s potential to grow and connect. We need to work toward being more inclusive and finding more respectful ways of building a community. After all, a welcoming Destiny community — and a welcoming clan — benefits us all. I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT going to argue with anyone. I just want your thoughts. (Optional discord use is good!! If you’re arguing about that, then you didn’t understand my post and don’t need to reply)[/quote] That's why I made a non discord clan. 90 members and were not 2 weeks old yet!

°Clans exist with no requirements. °Social anxiety on a multiplayer game... Yeah that's gonna work out perfectly on raids. °clans used to be amazing, nowadays it's not that important to be in one. °It seems you want an end game clan with all the benefits and 0 effort on your end. °"Privacy issues" not gonna lie this but made me chuckle xD did you read the privacy policy when you created an account with Bungie? But nah! Discord is where you draw the line. 😂 ° And stop spamming the forums please.

Without discord clans in destiny have no community aspect what so ever, as it lacks quite a bit of social aspects when it comes to clan management from being able to see past clan chat messages, so if people are looking for a raid and someone gets on after the message oh well too bad they don't see it. Discord provides great utility. I joined my clan about a year ago, got along with most, eventually after a few months got asked to become an admin since I hosted weekend raids every week, setting up events in the discord for anyone new to join if they want to run it or even learn. I even recently started making plans to run custom games in PVP with the clan. Discord is just an amazing tool to keep people in the loop and informed of clan updates, not using it just makes a clan just a shallow way of a little extra rewards. People aren't even forced to interact in the discord, just be part of it so if anything comes up their interested in they can ask. Honestly clan's without a discord I've found over the years aren't that great.

Your last post is gone? No. Find a clan that doesn't require discord or create one yourself. I seriously don't get your point of view when you can join clans with some having no requirements at all not even an application process let alone specific requirements.

Why can't you join a clan that doesn't require Discord? They do exist. Sounds too me you want a hardcore clan without the usual hoops. You can't have both. Pick one: • Hardcore clan with forced communication and involvement • Casual clan with no forced communication or involvement

This is such a weird post. Sounds like you went to a steakhouse and you're upset because you wanted a vegetarian meal. Just go to a vegetarian restaurant next time, and you'll be fine.

[quote]My last post is gone, weird, so here’s a new one. I get it — communication can be tricky, and not being able to easily connect with your clan can be frustrating. But making Discord mandatory to join a clan can end up excluding players who simply want to be part of a community. What should be a simple, welcoming process now feels more like a hiring resume. Long application forms Required Discord use Raid logs, class roles, and time zones Layers of rules and approval steps This isn’t about being anti-Discord — it’s about forced participation. Discord is a great tool for people who choose to use it. But when it’s made a requirement just to join a clan, that’s exclusion, not community-building. Some players deal with social anxiety. Some want to protect their privacy. Some just don’t want to juggle another platform. All of that is valid — but making Discord mandatory puts up a barrier for no good reason. And no — “you don’t have to join a clan” isn’t a real counterargument. Clans are a core part of how Destiny 2 is meant to be played. If access to that system is being bottlenecked by third-party gatekeeping, that’s a design issue Bungie needs to pay more attention to. Here’s what they could do to help: * Add better/more in-game communication tools (a chat channel system, group announcements, etc.) * Provide clearer clan discovery and matchmaking options that don’t require off-platform steps (clan filters like “Discord optional” or “no mics required”) * Set standards for clan listings that discourage excessive entry barriers To be clear: clans that offer Discord as an option — where players can choose to engage — are being inclusive and respectful. That’s totally reasonable. It’s only when it becomes a requirement that it crosses a line. And let’s be honest — we all know that the clans making Discord mandatory are usually the ones running massive clan networks with hundreds of tags under their umbrella. At that point, it’s not really about community anymore; it’s about scale. If you’re managing that many clans, you’re not trying to build a welcoming community — you’re chasing numbers. And that’s fine if that’s your goal, but don’t pretend it's about fostering connection when the systems you require actively push people away. Paragon: Think about how matchmaking works in Nightfalls or Crucible. You don’t have to fill out a form, join a server, or explain your playstyle just to run a strike. You press a button, get paired with others, and go. It’s not perfect, but it works because the barrier to entry is low and the goal is shared. Clans should aim for that same energy. When participation is based on shared interest — not strict requirements — you get more natural connection, better vibes, and a wider range of people who actually want to be there, not just those who are willing to jump through hoops. When barriers like mandatory Discord use prevent some players from joining clans, it limits the community’s potential to grow and connect. We need to work toward being more inclusive and finding more respectful ways of building a community. After all, a welcoming Destiny community — and a welcoming clan — benefits us all. I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT going to argue with anyone. I just want your thoughts. (Optional discord use is good!! If you’re arguing about that, then you didn’t understand my post and don’t need to reply)[/quote] If anyone has an issue with "mandatory participation" they can make their own group. I personally don't use Discord, because everyone I've ever known that was a big user of is miserable to be around and it seems to breed nerds and miscreants, but if a clan puts up requirements, that's their choice and getting annoyed at them for having requirements to join is dumb.

Can you tell me the names of some of the discord groups that ask for time zone and encourages lfg participation? Hardly any I've joined do it, and I find that super useful personally. Also requiring mic is important, not that I'm super feckin interesting but comms helps and even better if can have a laugh at same time.

I completely get the frustration with clans that ask for that much personal info and treat you as a data point in a spreadsheet but, the other stuff I am somewhat confused about. For better understanding what do you think a clan is for? What do you intend on for using a clan for? Why do you think being apart of an active or larger clan is vital or intrinsic to the gameplay of D2?

Stop making posts. How many is this, 4 now? The old ones aren't deleted, you simply couldn't find them. Even if they were deleted that's a hint you need to stop. Or maybe the app is showing me duplicate posts as I scroll 🤷‍♂️

Delusions of grandeur With some of these clans… discord should absolutely be optional…