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Edited by Volcanic-Pass:
6/25/2025 12:58:23 AM
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Class Abilities Nerf
Since Gambler's Dodge if EoF will no longer fully refund a melee on use with low Melee stat (now that it can be used at range,) a similar treatment should be applied to other class abilities that can also be used to full efficiency at any range.
In other words, if this class ability doesn't get full utility effects without having to invest in a different stat, all class abilities that give utility effects should follow the same rules.
For example:
Rally Barricade should not get full weapon benefits unless you invest into the Weapons stat.
Towering Barricade should have lower durability with low Health stat.
Healing Rift shouldn't provide an Overshield and should heal slower at low Health stat.
Empowering Rift shouldn't get full weapon benefits unless you invest into the Weapons stat.
(this is called build crafting)
Hunter melees are intentionally designed to be weaker at base, and more focused on the utility aspect.
If Bungie thinks a class that has marginally better melees than Warlock getting them fully refunded when using an ability is OP, the same logic should apply to other class abilities.
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7 RepliesHmm i think the comparison is slightly off. The equivalent of „when near an enemy“ is being stationary with rift and barricade. The refund was tied to being near an enemy, now it’s tied to the Hunter. Rift and barricade are now tied to the place where they are cast. You didn’t change that in your „suggestions“. If the barricade would change to be moving with me, I would gladly invest into a second stat. Or rift becoming an aura. The main reason imo for this nerf is to break the endless loops of dodge/melee ie invisibility. Without a bit of dedication to the supporting melee. Hunter was the only class who could totally ignore strength, even in melee builds. Have I used that, yes of course. Will the change kill all Hunter builds like some posts moan? I think not. 70 melee is what, +50% bump on Incoming melee bonus? (Estimate from some vids) so the dodge induced melee gain would be like 67% instead of a full refund. That’s not nothing like some ppl claim. I’d say give it a try
