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Edited by AurelionOTP: 6/27/2025 6:22:49 AM
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Im really starting to regret my preorder...

If someone could let me know how to refund this I'd really appreciate it. I preordered EoF when the initial announcement was made, it looked really cool and I was hyped.. but seeing all the changes they're making along with it I wish I knew how to refund it. Some of the reasons I feel this way are the following: 1) Reducing fragment slots on prismatic across all classes: The issues are not the slots they give!!! The issues are the aspects themselves!! Nerfing the slots does NOT solve the issue, nerf them the way you nerfed threaded specter (Less aim-pulling, threadlings not spawning when destroyed by bullets, class ability cooldown penalty, THAT'S how you nerf stuff). Bleak watcher is gonna be bleak watcher no matter how many fragments it gives, you just end up neutering build-crafting. What you could do also instead of nerfing the aspects you could also nerf trascendence, which is the enambler of most if not all the issues with prismatic (consecration as an example) you could reduce it's duration, reduce the increased regeneration rate of abilities, THAT would be solving the issue that you're looking at. 2) Nerfing STASIS out of all things: We all really know that this was because of the chill clip special ammo weapons, but WHY on earth does an ENTIRE SUBCLASS has to suffer because of this??? NERF chill clip, reduce the amount of slow stacks that each shot applies or reduce the percentage of the shots that slow from 50% to 25%!!!!!!!! And if you're gonna nerf something be honest about it, you're not nerfing stasis because "overload are hard to stun" additionally, making shatter stun overloads makes no sense!!! If they're being shattered it's guaranteed that they've already been stunned. 3) The hunter dodge: Once again, the devs are like "well, now you don't have to dodge near an enemy!!!", if I'm dodging something it's VERY likely that I'm near an enemy, in what situations do the devs think peoplel dodge???? to get out of cover when they're at the opposite side of the room???? NO it's near ENEMIES!!! And while I do agree the getting a melee back is broken THERE ARE BETTER WAYS THAN TO FORCE AN ENTIRE CLASS TO BUILD A STAT!!! By that logic then overshields obtained by titan barriers should depend on the health stat, and healing form warlock rifts should be as well, but those changes are not made because it'd be something STUPID to do. There are better ways to nerf gambler's dodge, since it's a class ability you could make the refund dependent on the class stat, OR you could make the refund dependent on the amount of enemies near you (as an example, 1 refunds 70%, 2 refunds 85%, 3+ refunds 100%; with majors/champions/bosses counting as more than one). 4) Making exotic drops in EoF TIER ARMOR 2: WHY ON EARTH ARE THEY TIER 2?? EXOTICS ARE SUPOSED TO BE GOOD, TIER 4 WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE, TIER 3 AT THE MINIMUM, BUT TIER 2???????????? COME ON. 5) Armor drop archetypes not accounting all playstyles: By making those archetypes there are entire playstyles that wont be able to function!! There is one that gives weapons + grenade, but there is none that gives weapons + melee???? What happened to making your OWN builds, am I just out of luck because bungie decided that my playstyle was not worth making an archetype for???? Limiting rolls like this is DUMB, it would be much better if the armor drops could drop with any combination of primary and secondary stats, also regarding the exotic class items, i feel like it would be better to just let the player pick the primary, secondary and tertiary stats would be a bit better, but in this case I do kind of agree with the approach that was taken. 6) The new gear buffs: I'm gonna keep it short for this one because I'm getting tired of typing... Either make the new gear window last the WHOLE year instead of 6 measly months; or reduce the buffs, the damage shouldn't be more than 5% and the DR shouldn't be more than 7 or 8%

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  • There’s still time to cancel

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    • EOF is almost entirely summed up as: "The Xpac where we make all of your current gear suck! And we are adding new grind systems where we make all of your gear suck again every 6 months!" xpac is the antithesis of rewarding player time, it's a spit in the face to players on the time they've already invested and all future rewards are now with tremendously less dopamine because they will only last for a 6 month cycle. Every single player will question 'why bother grinding' when it's gonna be reset twice a year going forward.

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    • If there was ever a time to cancel it, it would be now. I never thought I'd cancel mine either, but there's just no way I can support bungie in their current state, making the -blam!- choices they have been.

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    • Cancel it brother, this is how we boycott for better

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    • I would cancel it if I were you.

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    • I cancelled this morning. Wild.

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      • Best way to not regret it. Would be to cancel it.

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      • In terms of gamblers dodge, hunters have been able to totally ignore the strength stat because it’s FULL refund just for using your class ability. No other class benefits from just using their class abilities. This forces hunters to have to somewhat spec into strength if they want to spam melee abilities. It is concerning on how they will address this inside of crucible though.

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        This will be the first time in 10 years that I won't pre-order a Destiny 2 expantion. I've played Destiny in total of +/- 14000 hours.

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        • Community: RNG hasn’t worked since day one drop. Here are some reasonable and not so reasonable suggestions on how to fix. Just improve things to allow us to have fun. Bungie: You are right we need to double down on RNG and double down on perks using new items. We are planning lots of fun changes that make build crafting even more complex.. We are taking a closer look at restricting meta builds. Wishing this was an exaggeration. If you build D3 you start from scratch. Updating D2 you need to consider existing content and players. So far not feeling reassured.

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        • Listen to this my brother just got this BS scapieee 6/27/2025 - 11:16 AM Temporary Forum Ban Violation of the "Disruption/Evasion" clause of the Code of Conduct. The offending post has been removed, and you are banned from the forums until 7/27/2025 8:16 AM. "Fools ban for private matches Imfao. This company" Code of Conduct Im so glad i kicked this horrible company to the curb 6 months ago!!!!! I told him Bungie was nothing more than a Shady milk machine but he didn't listen.

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        • How do you get a refund for anything you buy? You go or contact the place you made your purchase from.

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          • It depends on the platform you purchased it on, but in most cases if you've downloaded anything, you can't get a refund - Playstation have a '14 day from purchase' rule - beyond that you're out of luck unless it's faulty. You'll need to contact Playstation Support, Xbox have a similar rule, however they'll also honour it if you've barely played the content. If you've not touched it at all within 90 days you can also claim, but it's dealt with case by case and you might not get the refund. They'll also refund pre-orders up to 10 days before launch as long as nothing's been downloaded. Go to the Xbox Support website, log in and go to your order history, select the product and then select 'Request Refund' Steam will generally refund DLC up to 14 days from purchase as long as you haven't played the underlying game it's for for less than two hours since you bought it, however as it's pre-ordered, that 14 days might not start until the day of release - contact Steam support

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            • Edited by Howiepenguin: 6/28/2025 12:16:51 AM
              Depends on the platform but you can always see if your bank will help you dispute the charge if the platform declines your refund. Just gotta rough it through some god awful customer service BS on the platform sometimes. Make a muck in the process and they'll eventually bend and refund.

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            • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 6/27/2025 3:33:32 PM
              I didn’t even preorder. The walking back of crafting instead of balancing and expanding on it already significantly decreased my play time. The weapon chase got uninteresting, uncompelling, and made the game less fun because I lost the on demand weapon experimentation that it brought. So I just held off on my preorder. Then I saw all these changes coming and the armor changes are the only positive thing(minus the archetypes not seeing every combo available). I have no real interest in using temporary destination gimmick abilities while I chase gear with temporary buffs that get upgraded with a temporary resource to increase my temporary level. And don’t get me started on the featured exotics or the way exotic armor will now be in this system. Then despite all the criticisms of this stuff they STILL decide to take an L with the shatter change by addressing it in the worst way possible.

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              • Edited by cryptic_king_241: 6/28/2025 12:53:22 PM
                On the hunter dodge, I think it's being done as it is bc some builds have their melee as their main weapon. So they're making players choose how invested we are in using said weapon alongside actual weapons. It's the same thing they did with the Titan's throwing hammer. We might actually be able to get a full refund on pickup again. With consecration getting a buff in fragment # (not on prismatic), solar Titan looks playable again. Or this is just another PvP change, because dodging behind cover is their thing. Stasis has always kinda sucked with attack verbs as it only has the one type which builds up to another verb. Yes it doesn't make sense for shatter to stun overloads since they're hyped up on whatever is making them act like they downed a dozen energy drinks quickly, but they've made unstops now more Juggernaut-like walking through a wall of stasis crystals. The warlock stasis turret was kinda broken tbh, you can see it on prismatic in The Glassway GM. Maybe they'll scale back the nerf somehow, like make the prism stasis turret dish out less slow stacks and buff the stasis subclass' version. Also, facet of command makes you have a constant auto reload and adding in devour gets another turret ready quick. Some builds use Transcendence as their dps. Go watch some Vesper's Host Puppeteer solo runs and watch them 2 phase her. I made it through only 1 dps in 2 runs, no extension, over dozens of attempts with everything and failed miserably. It's a high skill art, hands off the artist's pallet. They should make the gear window last the whole year. I understand the fairness to newer gear, but maybe just make them 75-50% as effective.

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              • Prismatic will be just as busted as it is now. 2 less fragments won’t change that at all. Shatter nerf was unjustified. Hoping they compensate with a barrier introduction or just revert. You literally just use your dodge to get a free melee refund. You aren’t “dodging” anything when you are going for a gamblers dodge. What logic are you trying to say LOL?? You’re the only class that gets free ability refund for using an ability at base kit. 70 stat to continue being the only class with a free refund is lax at worst. Ya don’t really get the idea of having tier 2, but I’d guess it’s code focused and implementing it isn’t as simple as we may think. More will be added over the next year. New gear will have little overall impact, current healing sources provide more than enough survivability, DR sources are numerous, and we are getting even more ridiculously powerful with the stat investment system. Your current gear will be just as strong as it is now, god and well rolled weapons will still be exactly that. You don’t even have to match surge mods in GM content to complete it, and that’s 25%, so 10% is gonna be irrelevant. If you want to engage in the “new gear” then by all means, you’ll get a slight boost but it’s absolutely not mandatory, and you’ll be able to complete every activity without it.

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                • [quote] 3) The hunter dodge: Once again, the devs are like "well, now you don't have to dodge near an enemy!!!", if I'm dodging something it's VERY likely that I'm near an enemy, in what situations do the devs think peoplel dodge???? to get out of cover when they're at the opposite side of the room???? [/quote] i'd trigger dodge in the tower/forums if i could, just to avoid posts like this. LOL

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                  The heck are you on about ? No way, bro! - old

                  It’s a preorder for an as yet unreleased product so you should still be able to cancel. If on playstation you’ll probably need to contact support either via chat or by phone. Link below is for the UK. I imagine it’ll be similar for your location. https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/contact-us/?category=store

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                • So get a refund, easy peasy.

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