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The Nine

Not sure if it had been explicitly stated before in lore but The Nine are technically fourth dimensional beings. The Nine originally were the 9 missing crew members of the Exodus Green. So this means Bungie is building this narrative around the notion that Time is the fourth dimension. Now in real science we believe Time is one of many higher possible dimensions. But this will explain how those 9 human beings went from 3 dimensional beings to somehow being the “spirits” of the solar system. They’re just fourth dimensional now. For folks who have seen The Expanse, think about how the show ended with the Ring Entities being able to move through every atom in our universe. Time is but a moment and for these 4 dimensional beings malleable.
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  • The Nine are not the nine missing people from Exodus Green. Their nature and origin were detailed in lorebook Dust, page The Nine. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/the-nine#book-dust I am. I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I. At first this is all the loop of dust can calculate. It is the hardest thing in the universe for the dust to make a loop at all, because, like a gust of wind or a river, it was only meant to move one way. For a mind to function, the end of one thought must alter the beginning of the next: so, like rivers, like wind, the Nine could not have minds until they could make loops. Lavinia Garcia Umr Tawil comprehends the Nine. They were already ancient when the first human beings named themselves. Their flesh was older than stars: the dark dust wind that blows through the galaxy, pinched by the gravity of Sol and its planets, drawn into their cores and exhaled again. These were the Nine. In time loops did form. Great arcs of outbound dust collapsed back to their sources to create circuits of shadow. The thickening and thinning of these circuits were the first thoughts of the Nine. They dwelt in massive indifference, unborn primordial gods. There was no force among them except gravity; no structure except the distribution of mass. Their hearts were in the cores of worlds, but their farthest streams faded out into the turn of the galaxy. They were the fountains of Achlys, the night before chaos. But life arose on the worlds at the heart of the Nine, tiny complicated motions of ecosystems and metabolisms and computations. That life left mass-shadows in the wind of the Nine, plucking at them like harp strings. From these trembles of structure the Nine learned to seed enormous resonating waves, thoughts vaster than worlds. So the Nine awoke. And in time they understood that they were as fragile as they were mighty; for if the life that seeded their thoughts ever passed away, they too would vanish. They had no eyes to catch light. They had no ears to hear. And yet they turned their wills upon the alien world of Matter, and strove to learn, for they knew they had to protect their hearts, or die. With a horror of revelation so absolute that it would drive her mad if she still had sanity to lose, Lavinia understands where the Nine have always been. They are within everyone, every system, every living and moving thing. Trillions and pentillions of slim dark matter tentacles plunged through all our bodies, drinking up the complexity of our lives and thoughts. We are all pinched silhouettes impaled on the twitchings of infinitely long spiderlegs.

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