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Edited by Noodle:
7/27/2025 8:21:09 PM
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NEW GEAR NEW GEAR NEW GEAR
Why does SO MUCH rely on having NEW GEAR?!
Equip new gear, you get damage buffs.
Equip new gear, you get damage resistance.
Equip new gear, you get better rewards.
You can’t do this activity without wearing new gear.
0/12 of my builds work in the new endgame thanks to this disgraceful excuse for a “System”. Not because they’re ineffective, no. But because they ALL require NEW GEAR to be equipped. And no, exotics are not an exception for some reason (Bungie, who thought it was a good idea to give warlocks TWO OPTIONS for exotic helmets?!)
This needs to be removed/reverted ASAP. All the loot we grinded long and hard for over 7 years has become completely useless. Not by powercreep, not by sunsetting, but by the FORCED ineffectiveness of our gear.
Never did I think I’d say this, but yes. It can get worse than sunsetting, and it’s this, right here.
The absolute state that is the ‘Social Aspect’ of Destiny 2 is another matter others have already complained about extensively, but I’ll bring it up again. Bungie, listen to your players, or your game will die. I have a sinking feeling you’re trying to kill your game to make Marathon more popular. It will not work.
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Awnser to this is simple. Can’t have the new gear without money money money money going to Bungie Bungie Bungie…..
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The best part about it is that looking at the sheer numbers, there is only a small number of actual new gear added with this expansion. This label is a marketing/psychological exercise to get people to start believing that the game has new gear 🤣 They tried the same thing with the Solstice Hand Cannon when everyone was criticizing the event for not introducing new things lmao.
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This is something that they should have added at the end of the year and not at the start. Who has a fully completed build with both new armor and weapons ? You have far to little time to learn the stats and even if you do, you can't use it because it is now time to farm for the next tier.
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Agree with you… some very strange choices were made during development
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1 ReplyAvant Garde needs to go away as a mod. At least disable it until they can rework it to include all exotic weapons and armor. I would love to do expert conquest but I can’t because my toon uses a class item, which is NOT on the “new” list. They need to stop gatekeeping everything just to add artificial playtime. Let us play how and what we want. Power means nothing! Let all activities drop new/powerful gear so we can do something besides ops playlists.
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4 RepliesEdited by Part Timer: 7/27/2025 10:10:52 PMwhere? what new gear? there's nothing to chase. like 4 weapons and 3 armor sets. the new comp handcannon isn't even as good as rose.
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They are trying to copy Diablo
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[quote]Why does SO MUCH rely on having NEW GEAR?! Equip new gear, you get damage buffs. Equip new gear, you get damage resistance. Equip new gear, you get better rewards. You can’t do this activity without wearing new gear.[/quote] But you can't get good new gear until your so high level it is not worth it.
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The worst is the leveling after 200. They really need to fix the instable core economy. You want to infuse an item, some takes 2 core some 43 !! Just to gain 10+ on a piece. At that pace it’s flattening the level curve badly, and it feels completely random and unnecessary. Removes that s*** and set it to a fix amount.
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It’s Bungie’s passive aggressive approach to Sun setting. By making everything you found or earned obsolete.
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21 RepliesNew gear locked loadouts sucks… like, let me use the exotics I want to use!
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Edited by Kiro - 13: 7/28/2025 11:04:57 AMWoah you forgot one [b]MAJOR[/b] step, delete gear after 6months because they loose damage buffs and damage resist. So it should be: Equip new gear, you get damage buffs. Equip new gear, you get damage resistance. Equip new gear, you get better rewards. You can’t do this activity without wearing new gear. Delete gear when Renegades releases. Repeat every 5-7months.
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2 RepliesBefore EoF dropped many of us were complaining about the sunsetting, others argued your old gear would be fine and this was not sunsetting, but bungie has built in these "new gear only" activities to force us to sunset without actually taking the gear away from us. 🤬
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1 ReplyMarathon is DOA, Bungie knows it but can't bring themselves to admit it. I've said it in the past as have many many more, "the only the thing that will kill Destiny 2; is Bungie" and they've just about hammered the final nail into the coffin with EoF or End of Fun as one person put it and they're pretty much spot on.
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Bungie: You can still use your old gear just fine, play how you want :) Also Bungie: If you don’t use the new gear you’ll get less rewards and even deal less damage, play how you want though :)
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To sum up ,what you described is Bungie soft sunsetting all our previous gear and weapons. Ada has some modified exotic armours to go with the new armour system. But there are not enough for all three characters. Overall from my perspective I agree with others who have basically said this version is the worst of the worst.
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I look at this game from a different angle now. Everything I was presented with in the reveal put me off buying it. The spinning ball, the armour changes, the soft sunsetting, the not-so-accurate information about where we could get the new weapons (crossbow cough cough). So, I'm playing [b]against [/b]what Bungie are telling me I must do. I can't get new exotic armour unless I pay for it, crucible is riddled with cheats, top tier equipment is basically locked behind a paywall, so I'm using my [b]old [/b]gear, with my [b]old [/b]weapons, doing good [b]old [/b]Destiny stuff,on the [b]old [/b] Destiny planets. And I'm really enjoying it! The biggest plus is that if I pace myself, I should get to level 200 in 6 months time.... which will be [b]exactly [/b]the same level as the streamers, elite and mega grinders when the next round kicks in.....without spending a penny 😁
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2 RepliesEdited by NerfPaladins06: 7/28/2025 8:12:26 AMI'm fine with equipping new armor. But I'm having trouble letting go of my weapons 🤣 So my "new" weapon do 10-15% more damage. That don't mean -blam!- when the perks suck. It's like we're back in the Leviathan era, but at least those weapons FELT good with shitty perks. Origin Story and Nameless Midnight, and Scathelocke were the -blam!-. These EoF weapons are ALL trash even the raid weapons. Remember the vidoc? "i cAn'T pUt tHiS tHinG dOWn" 🤦♂️
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2 RepliesOnly thing is the conquests with avante guard are so easy it doesn’t matter what you run. For all the “ difficulty “ they added I haven’t run a single thing that is hard. I’ve done a decent amount of pinnacle ops on GM with every negative modifier possible with my 400+ friends. They are easier than any GM I’ve ever done. Those same friends have already cleared the GM conquests with unmodded/non master worked gear in 15 minutes. Conquerer the title and the new activity modifiers are a complete joke.
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2 Replies[quote]Why does SO MUCH rely on having NEW GEAR?![/quote]Because people like having a reason to chase new gear.
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3 RepliesIf you think only 2 helmets on Warlock is bad, the ONLY helmet titans can use is precious scars which I NEVER see anyone use. Not a titan main, I play all 3 somewhat consistently fyi.
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1 ReplyThe only thing that requires new gear are seasonal conquests which you can launch once, an if you choose avant guarde - or the PvP event… Most activities you can still use old gear just fine….
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Are you telling Bungie to listen to their players? 😂
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Edited by OBI-SWEDE KENOBI: 7/28/2025 11:24:29 AMHey!!! Don’t tell Bungie can’t tell you how you must play the game…..wait….yeah, that!
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1 ReplyEdited by Franco-Nevada: 7/28/2025 7:50:48 AMNow that higher stat armor is dropping, I actually found it nice to delete most of my old armor. Thanks to ornaments my character looks exactly the same as before, but now I'm getting the 4-piece set bonus, plus I can infuse new drops for 1000 glimmer and zero unstable cores. As far as the other stuff I am of the opinion that we need to give them a little time to see how the new armor system shakes out. I'm sure they will start making adjustments as needed. In the meantime there is plenty to do, test, experiment with.
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3 RepliesUse new gear. Not hard.
