Well said Warframe is pretty good. There is a grind but it's worthwhile AND you can trade with other players. Tarkov looks good. I keep meaning to pick it up after watching people I know throw down. I MAED A GAME With Zombies In it is awesome. It's fun. You know what you're getting from it while having a laugh Fallout 4 with mods like SS2, London, or Frost is great fun. Infection Free Zone is an interesting approach to settlement building and zombie survival. GTFO looks good. Haven't sunk my teeth into it yet Pheonix Point is like the original Xcom combined with new Xcom in the best possible ways. Total Annihilation is a blast if you can get your hands on it.

[quote]I am a casual player. I absolutely looove the story campaign in EoF. 2 weeks in and I just finished the story campaign and the exotic quest. I am currently running the various quests scattered across the map that were unlocked after the campaign and am almost at light level 150. I have been playing D2 since Forsaken. I purchased Forsaken and all expansions and seasonal content and have done so since then - in advance. Not this time. I DID buy the EoF expansion - but only on the day of release after playing the 1st mission. I DID NOT buy the additional stuff for the new year. After I finish the various quests, I will likely go back and get the 3 remaining Prismatic fragments I never got. After that? Well, I was hoping to be convinced to get the expansions for the rest of the year. Not so. At this point I will move on and not put any more money into D2. There is no longer a good reason to spend any more money than that. PLUS I now have an extremely convincing argument for not even spending much more time in the game either. Want details? [b]The Details[/b] Before EoF, every legendary dropped a core. Now it is maybe 1 in 5 or worse?! Fortunately, I had a lot built up, but that is getting used up. WTH? Grinding for light level makes sense. Having to grind that and THEN start grinding for better armor? WTH? Life is too short for crap like that. To have to grind, and grind, and grind, and ******* griiiind only to get to a light level high enough to then start grinding for armor better than just lvl 1 is utterly and colossally stupid. WTH? [b]An Idea[/b] I don't like how just going up to legendary takes so much longer to kill anything and I die a lot more. Give me a reason to play the game at harder levels. If I CHOOSE to play the game on Mythic, I darn well should be seeing every armor piece drop with lvl 4 stats. Not just a couple of Light levels higher than what I would have gotten on an easier game level. Armor dropping at lvl 1 when NOT playing the game at Legendary or harder levels makes perfect sense. ANY armor still dropping at lvl 1 if I choose to play at a harder game level is stupid. Why don't you actually REWARD my choice to play the game in a harder mode with better stat lvl armor and weapons - not just a paltry bump or 2 higher in light level than I would have gotten? WTH? Let me infuse my new lvl 1 armor set (unless better ones drop) that I like with a lvl 2 armor set and bump the stats of my lvl 1 armor set up to lvl 2 stats! That would ALSO make it worth playing the harder content. That would respect my time. Who knows, maybe it would even enable me to play higher level content as well? What a concept! "A few seconds later" Bungie: "Someone other than no-lifers and streamers enjoying end-game content?!? NO, we can't have that!" Well guess what Bungie? You will get what you want by taking away any reasonable reward for playing the game. Why would anyone WASTE that much time for an experience like that? WTH? A game that doesn't at least somewhat respect my time, as enjoyable as it (once was) and as good as the story line is this time around, is simply not worth it if it doesn't respect my playing experience. REWARD me for playing the game at harder levels! The Bungie Code of Conduct states: "Be Kind and Treat Everyone with Respect". You no longer treat my time with respect. Real things in real life matter. Real time spent in real life is respected - and rewarded. I live life. I have a family. I have a job. I play video games for FUN. It looks like D2 EoF past the actual story does not respect or reward my time. I can quickly see that it will no longer be FUN either. I like to play games that feel like I am doing WELL. I like to play a video game that RESPECTS the time I put into it. I also play bass. I will happily spend more time working on getting better - to "get gud" on that because THAT activity actually RESPECTS and rewards my time. That said, I will miss my ONCE FUN shooter. I really and truly enjoyed D2. I would like to enjoy it again for a bit longer than just the campaign, but that will, apparently, no longer be possible. WTH? Anyone have any good ideas for a substitute? Should I go try Tarkov instead? 🤣🤣🤣[/quote] If you have a PC try Defiance, published by Fawkes Games. It’s free to play. Was originally released by Trion in 2014. It’s been revived.

I agree with this. It doesn't feel great to bust one's butt and get Tier 1 loot, the Effort-to-Reward ratio of this expansion pack feels like dog. And no, this isn't about wanting handouts, it's about wanting to feel like my time is respected, like I get a commensurate reward for the effort I'm putting in, and with the current difficulty scaling of the game, and the number of treadmills we're being asked to run on, it doesn't feel that way. I gave up a lot of 68 stat gear because of the new Armor system, but I'm not getting much 68 stat armor from the content I'm running. I left a lot of my best weapons in the Vault for the benefit of getting higher scores with new weapons in activities, but I'm not getting better drops than the stuff I already have. We're doing the things Bungie wants us to do, but we're not getting what we want in return, at least it feels that way a lot of the time. Tier 3 difficulty should offer Tier 3 rewards, I don't think that's too controversial. Doing what feels like Tier 3 difficulty, and getting mid-roll 1s and 2s, isn't a fun Effort-to-Reward ratio, especially not when that gear is likely to be soft-sunset next Expansion. Bungie cranked up the difficulty for this Expansion, and they gave us great rewards to chase, but the rewards aren't always feeling like they're worth the chase. Technically we're getting *more* rewards than we ever have before, but so much of it is low Tier trash that it's not getting the dopamine firing. Re: Other games. The only three games I've played nearly as much as D2 are World of Warcraft, which I haven't touched in years, and the Nioh and Borderlands series. In my opinion Nioh has some of the best action combat in gaming; it's tough as nails, but rewarding, tons of loot, tons of build crafting, tons of personalization, and at its best it feels as fun to play as Super Mario 64. If you play Borderlands 3, make sure to try out The Butcher, it's my favorite gun in the franchise; it's a full auto shotgun with a perk that automatically reloads it as you shoot, it deletes rooms.