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Edited by GetSpaghett:
7/30/2025 10:12:38 PM
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Too Much is Expected of the Player
The grind is pretty severe. I've been playing casually since the expansion dropped and I'm just about to start hitting 170. However, about 100 of that has only been in the last few days. I'm feeling a bit stressed by the amount of grinding I feel is expected of me.
But I do feel like mentioning that the progress to time ratio does feel satisfying enough for a fresh start. However, Arms Week has rolled around with a Guardian Rank 5 requirement to properly enjoy it. Rank 5 may not even be that hard to get to, but if you're just playing casually, you're likely not going to hit it before the event goes away. This is why I've been grinding harder than usual lately. I may pass up on the usual expansion stuff, but I don't want to miss out on enjoying an event.
The amount of event progress is also absurd for how short it is. It honestly feels like Bungie just forgot this event is only 1 week instead of 3 for the amount of xp and progress we need to make to finish it. One of the requirements for the title requires maxing out the rank, which may not even be possible during the one week, and if it is, it likely means we'll only have less than 24 hours to gild the title.
This honestly has me worried what the future seasonal events will look like. Are we going to end up with these event paths that take 3 weeks of at least 6 hours a day every day of grinding? (unless you, of course, pay money). Are we going to have more Guardian Rank requirements act as gates barring newer players and people who haven't treated the game like a job?
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Don't even need to read more than the title agreed highest leveled req should've been like 325-350
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Back in d1 you could level up through story and strikes to get to raid level then after completing the raid you were max light. So simple back then. Now it’s so confusing
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its a looter shooter their supposed to be grindy games the power grind is in for the most part 10x better than what it use to be now you can play at your own pace,difficulty,time. no needing to wait for a weekly reset just to get drops that have the potential to just be in the same slot over and over. this new system is in no way perfect but its significantly better than what it use to be so how people are thinking its the worst thing ever is just bizarre cause everything from 10 to 400 is literally just do things in the portal nothing hard about that 400+ i agree its kinda mid but everything else is not bad
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Edited by yodas_buddy: 7/31/2025 1:05:19 PMTotally agree. I’ve played since the start of d2 and don’t value having to jump through more and more hoops just to play the game and play for the loot in a looter shooter… - light level to ACCESS tier 5 grind, which then resets every 6 months, requiring repeat inane runs of the same tedious content with no meaningful loot rewards. - player rank 5 to focus engrams in events now - exotic catalysts requiring inane repeat runs of the same boring missions to use the gun - having to use New Gear therefore all the above is discarded and you start again It’s a joke at our expense. It’s not a game it’s a badly designed house of mirrors to keep you trapped and away from the loot you want to get, in a looter shooter. My analogy would be we’re now being farmed / experimented on. We’re rats in a LIGHT LEVEL maze, we hate the maze but finally get near the cheese after 6 months, we grab a handful of the tier 5 cheese and start to enjoy it. Suddenly we’re teleported back to the start of the maze and only NEW GEAR cheese is edible, ours is mouldy now and we can’t eat it. We repeat forever. We never get the cheese we want but it’s actually an elaborate treadmill paying our rat overlords though the electricity we generate. lol.
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I just hit 200 today. My reward is that I now have to do master difficulty, so now I'm struggling to kill red bars again. Thanks Bungle, so much fun.
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Edited by Dragokin: 7/31/2025 5:23:54 PMI can't even get to five it's locked behind an activity that I can't complete because it's power locked and I'm already sick of grinding and I am not going to nerf myself with T1 garbage gear it's counter productive to require that you weaken yourself to make progress
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13 RepliesNope. Nothing is expected. I play an hour or two after work at least 3 or 4 times a week. Already hit 280 power. It’s not that hard of a grind. What’s the rush?
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bungie deamdns so much and we give so little in return.
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Being expected to grind in a grind designed game is not too much.
