[quote]I use to be a big raider but here lately idk im just burnt out after working all day 1 or 2 hrs in an activity that has you beat your head against the wall doesn’t sound good. Player numbers way down the self destructive behavior at Bungie has fatigued the player base probably beyond repair. Raids shouldn’t need a map you have to pull up because an encounter is so convoluted in mechanics. But that’s just my opinion I’m sure the kids love the hourly submersion[/quote] Zero raids in this game need a “map” to complete.