Please, for the love of everything holy remove the grappler mod from being selected in quick play. Not only does it completely kill a few strong builds that aren't strand oriented, but it massively reduces end score multiplier. It literally makes your builds worse and removes a large chunk of your score. Either make it a bane and have it increase the multiplier or just remove it entirely. I'm tired of hopping into quickplay when I have a few minutes and just not being able to do anything because my grenade is now a useless piece of movement kit.
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Agreed, stupid idiotic thing. Typical of the tards who made it. Get rid of it, along with Avant Garde, Oscillation and Haste.
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Either make it offensive or remove it. How am i supposed to play warlock with half of my kit basically turned off?
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If the grapple still kept the melee I'd probably just roll with a strand build whenever it comes up but since it doesn't it really does limit builds since most of the builds I have are reliant on grenades wether it be my starfire build or my double turret prismatic build. They should keep the melee and just change it to a grapple with a shorter cooldown instead imo
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No heal grenades when im wearing the speaker helmet lol. What a waste.
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Edited by Mephistic: 8/15/2025 1:14:56 AMOh they sure will not do that, it would improve their reputation amongst the community. That improvement would bring a small bit of joy and satisfaction to the player base and that is obviously NOT what Bungie is about these days. Kind of like the improvements we recently heard about that won't be implemented until the next phase of "here's your power reduction, welcome to our idea of a fun grind".
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Edited by xbroggiex: 8/14/2025 12:58:48 PMGrappler is a great example of how Bungie doesn't understand their own game or even play it. Grappler was really good for farming Encore in the first week and Bungie decided at first to remove Grappler from the game temporarily to "fix" it, that was then followed by Encore's removal to be "fixed". Now its returned to the game it now has 4 red arrows instead of the 2 it had previously and they nerfed the rate at which you regain the charges by having you get kills. But this whole modifier takes away your normal grenade to give you 3 grapple charges of which you cannot use the melee for. The whole point of the modifier was to allow you to go fast through activities but apparently using it for its intended purpose in Encore was apparently too much, then using it in any other activity is pointless because they keep throwing hard walls in your way to slow progression. This modifier doesn't exist for any other reason than to be a hinderance now.
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I guess this is what happens when you fire your QA team?
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It’s amazing how bad random teams do when this trash modifier is active. Most end up leaving when we inevitably wipe.
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Just remove all the stupid negative modifiers completely..basically sucking the fun out of the game with these silly things
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I agree, it's listed as a boon but it's a negative for my build as a solar Warlock.. They already force you to take very specific challenge mods and player stakes, the arbitrary selection of a boon that doesn't benefit you is annoying. A forced Boon that changes your class ability or grenade to a different element or type is not a boon. It can nerf your build. Not to mention that, if you are already running a strand build with grapple it doesn't really add anything to your strand build. It does nothing but tinker with the score. Boon, I think not. This specific Boon is an outlier and needs to go.
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And it actually takes up a green 'benefit' boon slot.
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While running starfire I avoid this modifier like the plaque
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[quote]Please, for the love of everything holy remove the grappler mod from being selected in quick play. Not only does it completely kill a few strong builds that aren't strand oriented, but it massively reduces end score multiplier. It literally makes your builds worse and removes a large chunk of your score. Either make it a bane and have it increase the multiplier or just remove it entirely. I'm tired of hopping into quickplay when I have a few minutes and just not being able to do anything because my grenade is now a useless piece of movement kit.[/quote] 💯
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Yeah I was like what the fudge happened to my arc grenade? And why is it on strand grapple??? I can’t even slam into enemies using that kind of boon. It’s just as bad as that kinectic grenade one.
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It's annoying especially when you have a grenade build and you can't even melee
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👆🏼this
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Yes, please.
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I joined a team with my Starfire build only too find this.. totally pointless. My other build is a Osmiomancy one. Both to make use of the Artifact, but this just negates it altogether. Just stupid !
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Totally agree 👍👍👍