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8/22/2025 12:57:17 AM
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The real Destiny Killer is Bungie

I have played Destiny for years and put thousands of hours into this game. This is the most out of touch TWID you guys have ever released. Sad to see a game I love killed from the inside 1) Reducing power level by 1 in all solo ops activities is a huge step backwards. The portal system isnt perfect and I get how running K1 and Cladera is not a good thing. However this is a huge step in the wrong direction. A large portion of the players in Destiny are solo players, whether by choice or because they simply dont have other people to play with. Solo ops was supposed to be rewarding for those who dont have the flexibility of fireteams all the time. And we go ahead and make it less rewarding? What happened to playing the game the way you want to or whatever was said on those live streams 2) Pinnacle ops changes are terrible. Making those less rewarding as well to shovel people into fireteam ops is not the solution. The pinnacle ops has its issues for sure but making some of these longer missions less rewarding so we now have to do battlegrounds and onslaught??? Are we actually serious. How is this even considered to be a good solution. Shoveling people into longer activities to keep them playing the game for longer just to be rewarded like they were before is so out of touch. 3) The prime engram drops in the last 50 levels are terrible. Duplicates are frequent and its a gamble whether or not you will get a level. Now making it so people have to load into the tower in order to decrypt these????? Hello??? how is this going to help in any way. This is a massive step in the wrong direction. Leveling is already frustrating and slow especially at that top level and now the system is being made much worse 4) Raids and Dungeons are pointless to run. I am an endgame PvE player and Desert Perpetual is a fun raid in concept. The loot system needs a complete overhaul. The fact that base drops in the raid arent tier 3s and then worked up to consistent 5s baffles me. Starting it at tier 1 or 2 makes it feel terrible and pointless to run. Its a time investment that people arent even willing to do because the loot system is garbage. Old raids and dungeons are pointless to run besides running them for fun. The loot is outclassed by world drops on keplar once you reach 350 power so why run the raid? Edge of Fate made the best part of Destiny which are the raids and dungeons and absolutely trashed them. Massive L on bungies end I am not even going to get into the issues I have with not swap on contest mode and the raid race as a whole. The bugs and constant glitches persist in the game for months with no fixes. Putting a contest raid at -40 and then basically saying 'oops' when people found out. Bungie is so out of touch with the players its insane. We are tired of the "we hear you" tweets. You are killing your own game through these out of touch changes. I have many more thoughts but fear I have ranted enough already The real Destiny killer is and always has been Bungie

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  • Edited by ExpertPaper4854: 8/23/2025 9:09:55 PM
    100% agree with you another thing you forgot mention is our being reset back to 200 light with in 6 months there’s no point because no one has the time to grind to 450 light everyone is busy with there own lives It’s so pointless

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  • Killing destiny off so they can get you to play their new game. Obvious isn’t it. Can’t see many players going into their new game after treating them as they have through this one.

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  • PRECISELY!!!! Bungie is acting like they want their game to go up in smoke.

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    • Of Course! The only thing that can kill a very successful video game like D2 [b]IS[/b] the development team making bad decisions. They have done that aplenty, a veritable cornucopia of bad ideas implemented by the dev team. Coupled with the ignorance that your metrics show you are doing OK all while missing revenue goals, lay offs and decreasing player numbers. Fewer players is always a sign that things are not copacetic with the player base.

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    • You forgot to mention PVP, which is in its worst state ever.

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    • Enough said, Upvote 👍

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    • I was hoping the "Pass the Torch" post was bout them handing over to Sony

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    • I loved how they mentioned that it would be like D1 going to the tower to decrypt prime engrams. It's like these devs weren't around for the start of D2 when we still had to take those to Rahool to decrypt. These people are so out of touch with their community.

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    • Forget the Eliksni, forget Megatronus Prime from the Bayverse, Bungie are The Fallen.

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    • Totally agree with you

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    • Couldn’t agree more. I’ve run one dungeon, just one since EoF dropped. Bungie not keeping and enhancing the old pinnacle rotation for old raids and dungeons is one of the stupidest decisions they’ve EVER made. All it would have taken is pinnacle drop x2 for each encounter on each old raid and dungeon in rotation that week, more or higher power pinnacle on master. To prevent farming encounters over and over again, only one completion per character per encounter would drop pinnacles. How hard would that have been to introduce? And those that perpetually defend this company, don’t talk about balance and power creep, they don’t test the game anyway, that’s why there is so many issues with the game.

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    • Yes it’s not looking good. Honestly I was having fun until the last reset. At 370 I’m beginning to hit a place where every activity feels like a burden to run in GM mode. The difficulty scaling is -blam!- and it’s not a build issue. I have solid builds for a variety of situations, but the scaling and modifiers are just insane. For the first time today I had people left multiple times midway through a 15’ matchmade Fireteam OPS. How bad does it have to be, when people throw the towel in the middle of what is supposed to be a quick play activity. Get your s*** together B.

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    • Edited by Prowler690: 8/22/2025 10:52:42 PM
      I can't decide if it's through ignorance, incompetance, stupidity or malice that Bungie repeatedly says one thing then does the opposite. I play a couple of hours a night currently at 369 power that was greatly aided by Solstice. I don't plan to chase power after 400 so if I make 450 it will be a miracle. It all seems to be becoming a bit pointless so God help Destiny when other potentially good games launch.

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      • [quote]I have played Destiny for years and put thousands of hours into this game. This is the most out of touch TWID you guys have ever released. Sad to see a game I love killed from the inside 1) Reducing power level by 1 in all solo ops activities is a huge step backwards. The portal system isnt perfect and I get how running K1 and Cladera is not a good thing. However this is a huge step in the wrong direction. A large portion of the players in Destiny are solo players, whether by choice or because they simply dont have other people to play with. Solo ops was supposed to be rewarding for those who dont have the flexibility of fireteams all the time. And we go ahead and make it less rewarding? What happened to playing the game the way you want to or whatever was said on those live streams 2) Pinnacle ops changes are terrible. Making those less rewarding as well to shovel people into fireteam ops is not the solution. The pinnacle ops has its issues for sure but making some of these longer missions less rewarding so we now have to do battlegrounds and onslaught??? Are we actually serious. How is this even considered to be a good solution. Shoveling people into longer activities to keep them playing the game for longer just to be rewarded like they were before is so out of touch. 3) The prime engram drops in the last 50 levels are terrible. Duplicates are frequent and its a gamble whether or not you will get a level. Now making it so people have to load into the tower in order to decrypt these????? Hello??? how is this going to help in any way. This is a massive step in the wrong direction. Leveling is already frustrating and slow especially at that top level and now the system is being made much worse 4) Raids and Dungeons are pointless to run. I am an endgame PvE player and Desert Perpetual is a fun raid in concept. The loot system needs a complete overhaul. The fact that base drops in the raid arent tier 3s and then worked up to consistent 5s baffles me. Starting it at tier 1 or 2 makes it feel terrible and pointless to run. Its a time investment that people arent even willing to do because the loot system is garbage. Old raids and dungeons are pointless to run besides running them for fun. The loot is outclassed by world drops on keplar once you reach 350 power so why run the raid? Edge of Fate made the best part of Destiny which are the raids and dungeons and absolutely trashed them. Massive L on bungies end I am not even going to get into the issues I have with not swap on contest mode and the raid race as a whole. The bugs and constant glitches persist in the game for months with no fixes. Putting a contest raid at -40 and then basically saying 'oops' when people found out. Bungie is so out of touch with the players its insane. We are tired of the "we hear you" tweets. You are killing your own game through these out of touch changes. I have many more thoughts but fear I have ranted enough already The real Destiny killer is and always has been Bungie[/quote] It’s time to play a different game until bungie gets their sht together…..or sony steps in and fixes things but I highly doubt that outcome from either company

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      • Good points, we already have a ton of issues and Bungie make it even worse. The game now is just grind power level, and now is slower. There's no game anymore.

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      • This, especially after they just said they are working to make portal activities more rewarding. When everyone is running one or two activities over and over, it is not because they are too rewarding, its because everything else is not rewarding enough. This really kills any desire to continue grinding.

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        • Yup, good old Bungle, incompetence and maladministration.

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        • IMO the company got lazy and sick of working on Destiny because Marathon proof of that Marathon got way more promotions and advertisements than Destiny 2 TFS ever did not to mention more was planned before being cancelled. I don't know about anyone else but in my opinion the seasons then got worse over the years, having gd story development but the activities started to get boring especially if you are going to keep rehashing the same type of gameplay loop like Onslaught and the rogue like gameplay. I really miss the seasonal 6man activities, they were actually really fun,enjoyable and stress free what happened to those man, I'm honestly getting sick of the traditional 3man Fireteam activities while this game has the current potential to actually do 4-5man Fireteam activities that can be a new mode or potential large strike.

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        • A very true statement. The Division was supposed to be a Destiny killer. Some guardians played it for awhile… it just didn’t scratch that itch that Destiny does. Borderlands 3. Guardians left the Tower for it, played it through and returned to Destiny 2. Anthem… 😂 Only Bungie can kill Destiny.

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          • Not really whatever youtuber wanna see bungie gives them so who's the real killer here

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          • A game developer so defiantly tone deaf, and hell bent on constantly moving the goal posts on game content and quality deserves to go bankrupt. The Best of Bungie is long behind us and the future of this once beloved studio is as dark and bleak as their monetizing soulless eyes.

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          • About the title: it has always been

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          • Always has been.

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          • Sure is. If anything the mobile Destiny game has shown that there is a genuine interest in the franchise yet Bungie is doing everything in their power to kill this specific game. At this point we have to assume that they're doing it on purpose because it's not concievable that everyone in a position of power could be this out of touch with their - dwindling - playerbase. You really have to question if anyone in power at their studio actually also plays the game on a regular basis.

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            • They totally have no clue, they kill the fun parts and really don't think that after 5 weeks of EOF the hardcore players are up there on level but the casual players are not. Again they are hurting the casual and lower level players. Bungie pull your head out of your ***, think about your player base across all levels of player skill and time, but then again you do listen then just screw us over.

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            • Quick question why would raid drops be tier 3 if they were tier 1 equivalent before?

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