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Edited by The Legend Himself: GONZO:
8/22/2025 8:21:28 PM
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Remember when video games were fun?
I don’t know where we lost our way. It probably has its roots in the early days of social media where people started to yearn for clout and attention. This crowd of “git gud” and “you have to ‘earn’ it” gate-keeping basement dwellers who need strangers on the internet to validate their self-worth and individual accomplishments are ruining this game (and everything else, for that matter).
Video games should be about fun and stress relief. Not a second job or a means to show off to strangers. Please Bungie, stop listening to streamers and no-lifers and/or corporate a-holes who only care about further fattening their already fat pockets. Listen to the vast majority of us who play this game for fun and/or community.
At the end of the day, we just want to shoot aliens in the face with cool guns, wield powerful space magic, and horde the cool loot we have collected over the years in our various adventures across the Solar System. We don’t want to be vault managers, number chasers, or sweat lords. We want to have fun in the video game that we’ve come to love for well over a decade.
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Started a new topic: Is this the worst Destiny has ever been?(23 Replies))
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5 RepliesVideo games ARE still fun ..... Just not this one.
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This old tortoise remembers when two corporate types, stated, in a news report - ‘this isn’t about Timmy playing a game too much in his bedroom anymore…it’s become a multi-billion dollar industry!’ Or something along those lines. Being a ‘gamer’ is in my blood…hardwired in my DNA…way before consoles or PCs were even heard of; it all started on those Bally machines! I got into D1 via HALO - as my (then) young son’s wingman. A favourite game of ours was Quake4. After the Sunset debacle, I bounced over to WarFrame (MR24) and had a ‘whale’ of a time. A flood of nostalgia, after watching some old D1 vids we made, I returned to Destiny’s shores once more…only, this time, my engagement with the game would be very different. No more chasing anything…just keeping it simple…vanilla everything when possible…just pootle about the place and take my fun wherever I could find it. I know the game…the environments…it’s all very familiar…and for this old tortoise, it’s a better place to be than surfing the spider Web - where one is but 2x clicks away from places best unseen! TLDR: I like Destiny. I don’t like what BHQ have done to it. That stuff has been going on since D1. I’m happy enough to stick around in the hope that things change for the better, though I have no doubt that they may not?! If stuff gets too silly - I simply don’t do it. When it’s time to bounce (again), I will. I’m okay with that. Let’s see if things change for the better under BHQs new leader, JT. It might take some time to ‘course correct’ this ship…and I’m happy to give it a chance. Rome wasn’t built in a day. That is all. Murphy, my ghost, agrees! 👻 Ease Springs! 🫡
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3 RepliesBungie, like most live-service devs, works off a pretty simple assumption: the longer you play, the better the odds you’ll buy something. If you’re in the game for hours at a time, you’re seeing Eververse ads constantly, you’re more invested in your character, and you’re more likely to rationalize dropping $10 or $20 on a skin, booster, or a level skip. The grind builds habit, and habits turn into money. The problem is that this logic only works up to a point. Industry research into free-to-play and live-service games shows that the real “sweet spot” for engagement is short, repeatable sessions — around 20 to 40 minutes per play, three to five times a week. That’s enough to keep people hooked and in the loop without overwhelming them. Fortnite and Genshin Impact have this nailed. Their grinds are time-gated and light, progression feels steady, and when people spend, it’s because they want the new skin or character — not because they’re exhausted. Destiny 2 is on the other side of that curve. The game often demands two or three hour sessions, several nights a week, just to keep up with seasonal levels, artifact power, and timed quests. That’s not fun engagement anymore — that’s fatigue. And instead of nudging players toward Eververse, it drives them away completely. Bungie is still designing like it’s 2017, where “hours played” was the holy metric, but in 2025 the reality is different. The grind doesn’t increase spending anymore, it just accelerates burnout.
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3 RepliesI am in my 50s and I might just have rose coloured glasses on, but it felt like long ago games were made to be fun and people hoped fun games would make money. And now it might be people make games to make money and hope they will be fun.
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1 ReplyI remember build crafting. Build crafting was fun. Today I've got so many pieces of gear, and the Unstable Core prices are so high that build crafting is kind of tedious. Farm the parts, then farm for upgrades, then farm for unstable cores, then, after you've done that, you can try out your build. That's just one example, but it's the first that comes to mind. There's so much friction between us and the fun, it feels like, and while [b]some[/b] friction can and does enhance the fun, but there's definitely a limit, a point of diminishing returns. It sort of feels like the farther we get into the game (right now) the more the friction increases, as we're put into harder difficulties, picking harder banes, farming more and more Unstable Cores, maybe this evens out in the end game, but at least during the doldrums in the middle, it can be hard to get going.
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7 RepliesLike in almost everything else in life, we lost our way when greedy corporates and their bean counters took control. There was a time when companies wanted to make great things that gave their customers what they wanted and stood the test of time, be that cars, houses, tools, toys, games, etc ... but then greedy people got wind of it and decided to exploit it and here we are. 🤷
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I noticed that the TWID didn't use that word one single time. Instead it had graphs. Graphs which were supposed to let them know how the game is doing, instead of just looking at THE FEEDBACK PAGE!!!!
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They still are fun. Just not this piece of s**t.
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1 ReplyWell, apparently Bungie forgot too. Changing their slogan from “We make games we want to play.” To “We make games that inspire friendship.” Guess they stopped the whole “making games we want to play” part.
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Lots of games are still fun. Problem is too many people rolled over and kept buying bad decision after bad decision with Destiny. When we rebuked base D2, we got Forsaken. When the DCV was mentioned? Y’all bought in cause you didn’t wanna lose your vaults. Short term gain over long term viability. Despite being warned that disposable content mentality would negatively affect future development. Cause at that point the only metric is keeping you on the wheel, not making quality content. DCV equaled hamster wheel and only now are y’all waking up.
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It is its called closing game and playing another game or going outside
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You can have fun. Only if you don't mind being like 150 light. Then you just play whatever you want and only when you feel like it. Amazingly liberating.
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Jet Set WillyPlaying tells Bungie you like this 💩 - old
Video games can still be fun, but some people just don’t seem to want them to be. Used to be that people played what they enjoyed and moved onto something else when they stopped having fun. But these days a lot of people appear determined to continue playing a game/games that make them miserable/upset/angry. Many people seem to obsess over a specific game to the point where they complain about it all the time whilst still playing it for hours every day. -
1 ReplyI still enjoy playing Destiny 2. I find it fun. I don’t mind the grind. There’s plenty of different things to do to level up and I’m still killing aliens and playing with my friends.😁
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We lost fun when everything started to be competitive, for views/money. Certain people want everything to be super difficult so that people will gravitate to videos and streams looking for easier ways to get things done. It's easy free marketing for games and easy money for the content creators. It's not just destiny that's doing this, though it's everyone. Games are only fun when they are made by people who want their games to mean something, not when companies are making them to make money. And this is due to the sheer amount of growth in video games overall.
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No I don’t
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3 RepliesDestiny 2 is a fun game micromanaged by the most incompetent studio who have proven to be maliciously ignorant. Games are still fun its all about what you like to play, are you someone that wants to dump hours to master a game or take a more variety standpoint. But in regards to D2 it was fundamentally screwed from the start from Y1 day 1 and its been crawling along because the majority of people accepted whatever the studio put out. Now no one cares its full on apathy.
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4 RepliesEdited by Ferus Lux: 8/23/2025 4:52:20 AMThey dedicate a fat chunk of their budget and manpower to produce a simon says obstacle course race for streamers that 80% of players don't even touch. Resources that could to a new Subclass, exotics, and more. They locked an entire new weapon type behind a Raid. Imagine if Witch Queen did this with Glaives.
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2 RepliesVideo games have always been fun and there is a particular skill set for each game. There will always be a “git gud” crowd, just like anything in life it takes practice to perfect a skill set. The problem is now companies are shoving micro transactions down their player base. Back then, you would buy the $60 game, and maybe a year later buy the DLC but that was it. No skins, no cosmetics, no micro transactions. Let’s look at call of duty, where now you can literally play as Seth Rogan, as long as you pay up. While it may be funny, you get the picture. Corporate greed has taken over gaming. There is the true issue.
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Yeah, no power fantasy at all here any more. Just some ridiculous masochistic game play. The modifiers in fireteam ops suck - just not fun all - especially running with randoms!!!. I feel like everything being done is in spite of the players. Everything feels more limited to do in game and there’s absence of any dev oversight. “Just do something and we’ll crutch on influencer marketing”.
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They should bring back ketchcrash and leviathan public event. Both were fun
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2 RepliesI have fun
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Oh there are fun games out there and destiny was ….sad to see Destiny go out like this.
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No fun in this game with the fun police ruining this game
