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8/28/2026 2:15:32 PM
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PvP was better when it was 4v4

I think I’m going to get pushback for this but hear me out. I’m not saying revert everything to d2 vanilla. I’ve been playing iron banner this week and there’s been a lot of frustration. I’ve been wondering if the game would be better if we reverted back to 4v4. More players in a match might mean more lag and other networking issues on top of the overpowered, unbalanced meta. IMO the more players exacerbates the problems that are already in the game. I know someone will say to just go play competitive. And I do but matchmaking takes a long time. I got disconnected from an iron banner match which gave me a 5 minute penalty. So I hopped in comp only to be waiting longer than 5 minutes for matchmaking. I backed out and played iron banner again lol.

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  • Pvp was better when it was just solar , void and arc . All that prismatic , strand and especially stasis stuff is just beyond annoying . Btw destiny 2 got changed so much, mostly in pve and new armor stats , tier loot and all but they still have the same pvp maps from destiny 1 and pvp people still wonder why there are issues in pvp . 😂

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  • 4v4 turned into 2 sets of 2v2, it was a complete team shoot meta. Now, the build crafting/ new subclasses and abilities/ insane new pool of weapon perks we have today makes vanilla D2 look like Pong, so there's that. I think it's better with odd numbers so I'm going to say 5v5 maybe? I don't feel like I ever got into 1v1s when it was 4v4.

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    • 4v4 runs better with the hybrid system and player connection

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    • I miss it being 4v4 too, but screw countdown. That game mode can stay gone.

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    • I disagree. People have been enjoying 6v6 more. 4v4 belongs into E-Sports and MMORPG PvP like ESO. Not into a RPG-Shooter.

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    • Nah.

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    • Who cares? Y’all need to start letting go. Nostalgia about Destiny pvp is bottom of the barrel fellas

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    • I actually agree. It was more focused and tactical but I think 6’s suit the masses more. 6 is more chaotic and casual which is why people like it but also why people don’t.

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    • No it wasn't.

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    • Many of us pleaded with them to make the entirety of Destiny 2 5v5 max on at least all the maps except the very large ones. They never listened because they are idiots. 6v6 is simply too much for this game to handle. Spawns, abilities, speed, maps, et cetera. It was clearly never designed for 6v6. Only a few maps can handle that many people in anything resembling a decent game.

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      • We been saying that ever since the "Go fast" update all them years ago!!! It's SILLY ...95% of the maps were made for MUCH slower guardians ( yes even the D1 maps, we were slow in D1 ), and the D2 maps were made for 4 v 4. Burning Shrine.. initially designed to be the ONLY Trials map. It hasn't been good for a long...long time.

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      • 3v3 was the best

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      • Control is so bad now and IB is awful ! Played 4 games one spawn into Al doing game then 3 mercies ….just not motivated to keep playing …small very small doses is ok now .

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      • "Unbalanced meta"? Which part of meta is unbalanced

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        • 4v4 Countdown is some of the best PvP I’ve played in Destiny.

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        • Fact!

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