Check the article above. In short, the author thinks that presidents should not swear in on a Bible (nor any other religious text), but rather on a copy of the Constitution. Doing so would remove any sense of exclusion for non-Christians as well as demonstrate, as John Adams did, a stronger loyalty to the laws that one is being sword to uphold and defend, rather than a religious text.
Personally, I think this would be a step in the right direction, for all the reasons stated above. And I don't see how anyone could logically argue that we should continue using a Bible for any reason. It's an asinine tradition that should find itself in the dustbin of history.
What say you, Bungie.next?
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I don't care if they swear in on a copy of Popular Mechanics. I would just prefer that when they give their word, they actually keep it. The document doesn't matter. If the person taking the oath wants it to be a bible, the quran, or hustler, I don't care. We have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM it. People's beliefs are supposed to be what they choose to believe, not what others TELL them to.
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It's not like we're Israel... right?
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It's not like the founding fathers of America based our government on Christianity or anything.
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Honestly, it doesn't matter It's as harmless as saying "one nation under God" in the pledge It's more of a symbolic thing rather than a religious thing In fact, it has nothing to do with religion It's just tradition But yeah I agree Although it's not a big deal, it would make more logical sense to swear on the constitution
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>implying any of our presidents in the last 20 years gave a crap about the Constitution. >lol
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I have always been interested in this topic as a religious person. Jesus actually says that avoiding swears is best. Matthew 5:34-37 I always wonder why people still swear by the bible... (Shrugs)
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Edited by Raw Sugar: 11/20/2014 12:49:31 AMWhy not both? No reason for you Americans to throw out your heritage, amiright?
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*sees another thread about religion* *leaves*
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They should swear-in on a good ol' porn magazine.
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I would swear on the bible and still lie. Hate me, i dont care but ask me to swear on my kids lives and ill let out all my dirty secrets. Kids are real, gods yet to prove it.
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I agree with Recon, it's symbolic and irrelevant. They're gonna lie and cheat regardless.
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They should swear in on a pile of cash, only thing that matters anymore. I'd personally swear in on a Warhammer 40k rule book and say " -blam!- it, let's all paint!"
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A rude awakening is coming for alot of people
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We remain secular somehow.
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Swearing on the constitution might provide some of its own problems. They should swear on the Bill of Rights.
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Can they choose what they swear on?
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They should swear on a 6th grade biology textbook instead
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Edited by zikee: 11/20/2014 12:30:33 AMBump yep from 2014
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The constitution does state that the government shall not show any respect for a religion, meaning never to endorse one, so swearing on the bible can seem unconstitutional.
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Agree.
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A say that swearing in on the bible is merely a symbol of a real problem. The US needs proper separation of church and state, and making this small change with have very little effect.
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I'm not American, but I agree with this.What about when you have a non-religious president?
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I like the idea of swearing in on the Constitution, but I don't think they should be banned from swearing in on a piece of religious text if it appeals to them. It's a sign of honesty and standing by their word and holds them accountable to a higher power, which is kind of a big deal to some people. That being said, I know the amount of people who would absolutely flip if it were a Qur'an or the Book of Mormon would be disappointing.
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I can see your point. If I were somehow ever to become President, I'd probably use both. One on top of the other.
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In would swear in on a copy of Darwin's evolution book. That would sure cause some controversy.