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Edited by SammichManJoe: 2/1/2013 6:03:06 AM
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Burning Baby Atheists

Would you do it? Would you really do it? Please, pay close attention. If you heard a baby crying in a burning building, would you go in to save it, atheists? There's no one else nearby, and the fire dept. won't make it in time. Would you still do it if you knew you were going to die? Let's assume that somehow you get the baby to safety, but due to complications you don't make it out yourself. Furthermore, your body will be burned beyond recognition; no one will know of your actions, nor will anyone remember you. And consider this: this baby was left alone. It's raised by obviously terrible parents, and will likewise have a terrible life. There's a good [u]chance[/u] that this baby would become a violent criminal one day. Would you save it then? Or would you walk away? You only live once, after all. Edited: The purpose of the scenario is this: That, with nothing beyond death, with no chance of living neither in spirit nor in the minds and hearts of others, would you sacrifice yourself for no reward?

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  • will this necro into now, gee I hope so that'd be dope

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  • Who would be insane enough to save another human being? Wow, when will people learn

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  • Your thread is bad and you should feel bad.

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  • Eh, probly not bc im selfish

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  • https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VliQVB5T6mI

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    • Id run in the building and not save teh babeh. For lolz

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    • Although this post is old, I would take the risk, yes.

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    • Edited by The Cellar Door: 12/9/2014 5:15:54 AM
      [quote]Would you do it? Would you really do it? Please, pay close attention. If you heard a baby crying in a burning building, would you go in to save it, atheists? There's no one else nearby, and the fire dept. won't make it in time. Would you still do it if you knew you were going to die? Let's assume that somehow you get the baby to safety, but due to complications you don't make it out yourself. Furthermore, your body will be burned beyond recognition; no one will know of your actions, nor will anyone remember you. [/quote] You should have stopped there. Adding the rest makes this thread irreverent in my eyes. [quote] And consider this: this baby was left alone. It's raised by obviously terrible parents, and will likewise have a terrible life. There's a good [u]chance[/u] that this baby would become a violent criminal one day. Would you save it then? Or would you walk away? You only live once, after all. Edited: The purpose of the scenario is this: That, with nothing beyond death, with no chance of living neither in spirit nor in the minds and hearts of others, would you sacrifice yourself for no reward?[/quote] The purpose is defeated when you add it the part about it living a horrible life. A) How would you know this? You simply wouldn't. There is no imaginable way you could know this exact future for this baby, when saving it. This defeats any logical continuity that would have rather existed. B) Why is this directed at atheists? Wouldn't killing yourself in this fire be a sin? Wouldn't you saving this child from a life of temptation be righteous? This isn't philosophy, this is slapping random shit ontop of philosophy.

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    • Good question... Modern flood, what do you think?

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    • Edited by Ric_Adbur: 2/2/2013 5:07:25 AM
      Since you added the part about the baby having a horrible life and growing up to be a criminal... no, I wouldn't. Why put myself, the child, or anyone he might one day wrong though that all that suffering for no reason? Assuming I had that information beforehand, somehow, which seems to be the intent of your adding that addendum... This is a stupid question.

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      • Edited by Cultmeister: 2/1/2013 10:18:41 PM
        yes. the child's life is much more important than mine, the need for a reward has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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        • I'd risk my life, but not sacrifice it. I don't know this person, and as much as I would want to help, I couldn't bring myself to do it, especially since it's a criminal baby.

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          • [quote]with no chance of being remembered/"living on" through other peoples' memories[/quote] What -blam!-ed up view of atheism do you have?

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            • Well I don't know what I would do because it has never happened to me.

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            • Yes

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            • what the hell is this shit

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            • I thought this thread was going to be about burning an atheist's baby... Nevermind.

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              • Who wouldn't save it?

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                • Edited by DocSmurf: 1/31/2013 9:50:55 PM
                  [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote] What did I just read? [/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

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                  • No. If I know I'm not going to survive something, I'm not going to do it. Giving my life to save one child prevents me from doing any more good in the future.

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                    • The only reason why I wouldn't do it is because I don't want to die a horrible and agonising death in order to save a baby I have never met when I don't even like babies. If I wasn't go to get burnt and hospitalised, then I would, but then it wouldn't actually be a conundrum at that point, would it? Then it would be obvious, so [i]of course[/i] you're going to die in this hypothesis... No.

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                    • Edited by Apple: 8/16/2015 6:37:16 PM
                      fafwa

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                    • There's a difference between being religiously moral and socially moral. I would save the baby since it's the right thing to do in my mind.

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                    • [quote]The purpose of the scenario is this: That, in the absence of an afterlife, with no chance of being remembered/"living on" through other peoples' memories, would you sacrifice yourself for no reward?[/quote]Is this to imply that those who do believe in such an afterlife would be more inclined to save the baby, simply as an manifestation of the utterly selfish desire to maximize one's potential for a glorious afterlife? Because if that's the case, then you and your ilk are no better than the people you seem to be trying to out.

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                      • Why is it any different than anybody else? I could throw this logic at you: Because there is no afterlife, we should seek to conserve as much life as possible. Everybody should have the right to live. The baby is younger than me, thus he should have a chance to have at least as many years of life as me. As for people who believe in the afterlife, the baby would simply meet God in heaven, and will thus be happy.

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                      • I don't think that being an atheist would have much bearing on one's choice to try and save the baby or not. At least, I hope it wouldn't.

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