Liked the comment on the first link; "[i]it's good thing bungie is independent and only have to listen to activision time frames while they pay the bills[/i]" Guessing (like many) that deluded sole has not read [url=http://documents.latimes.com/bungie-activision-contract/]the contract[/url], in particular the reference on page 2; "[i]in the event of a deadlock, Activision shall have the tie-breaking vote[/i]". How will that work for the "[i]independent bungie[/i]" ... let vote on charging for subscriptions for new world expansions; - bungie vote against (yeah, as if), - activision vote for (of course) - tie break vote to activision. 3 to 1 vote, activision wins (and wind EVERY TIME). As for that subscription model (ie pay for the base game, then pay again for ongoing world expansion), refer; "[i]business model for the Products is a blend of retail packaged goods sales, digital download, [b]subscriptions[/b], downloadable content, value-added services and micro~trarrsactions[/i]". Funny ... the original subscription model included an initial lower buy in ... ie pay less for the initial game ... but that phrase has disappeared in recent conversations?