Go direct to the source: [url]http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=740914[/url] [quote]Activision reiterated that although Bungie's amazing new world was revealed today, Activision has not included the launch in its 2013 outlook and there should be no speculation or expectation of a different result.[/quote] Statement seems to indicate that it won't come out in 2013. Things change though. I'm not holding my breath, and I am certainly not pre-ordering until I know of a release date. Plus, I would prefer to get it on the next gen console.