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originally posted in:Destiny
Edited by MasterBarek:
3/1/2013 2:59:10 PM
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Speculation, Thoughts and Questions on the Traveler, AI's and Rampancy
For those of us who have hung around the Bungieland for awhile, we know they like to stick with certain symbols and themes, two of those being artifical intelligence and rampancy. I'm curious how these particular themes will play out in Destiny's universe or if it will be present at all. (I would be shocked if it wasn't.) Now, we do know there's this massive thing floating over our planet called the Traveler. And I'm thinking, AI construct? With the information we have, which is very little, I think you could certainly make a good, rational argument the Traveler is sentient in some way and thus perhaps an AI. Bungie also stated, and I'm paraphrasing here, It gave everything it had to protect us in the last major battle. However, it is evident that it is still operating in some capacity but it has been greatly diminished. Rampancy perhaps? (Not quite as sure about this. Just throwing it out there.)
Anyways, here are my questions: do you think Bungie will carry on the themes of AI's and rampancy in Destiny? If so, in what way? Do you think the Traveler is an AI construct? Why or why not?
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3 RepliesI've been wondering not just where the Traveler came from, but when. The Vex are time traveling robots, could the Traveler be somehow connected to them?
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Edited by MasterBarek: 3/10/2013 8:21:14 PMGreat points and questions! In regards to "magic", My take on Bungie's comment is I feel they were simply acknowledging the role the warlock's ability plays within their game in the broader context of similar games. This stereotypical character is the magic guy that can control environmental elements. You can call this power different things (e.g. Star Wars- the Force, Mass Effect- Biotics) and even have a scientific explanation, but in the end that's the character's operational function. I am leaning towards believing there will eventually be a rational/scientific explanation of our abilities and it not be supernatural/unexplainable, but who knows. Bungie might suprise us. As far as my thoughts on a rational explanation and borrowing from another Bungie element, I think one explaination for the abilities of the warlock class would be slipspace technology. At this point, all we know about humanity's reach during our Golden Age is that we extended out into our Solar System, but currently we do not know about any further expansion. This would seem to indicate a lack of mastery of a slipspace technology. (Although this theory only holds up if we do not understand the science behind the [i]Stargate[/i] like portal in the Vidoc.) We know in Halo that the Forerunners had a thorough mastery of space/time through slipspace technology. If the Traveler is helping us, it makes sense to me that it might be through this type of technology, but if our we do not understand this, there is a mysterious, magical feel to it.
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Yeah really hadn't dwelled too much on the time-traveling comment about the Vex but that would open up the possibility of the Traveler being from the future as well.
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2 RepliesI know everyone sees this as magic. I see it as a form of advanced tech that saved us. Like is just a huge mass of technology that we are reverse engineering with a way to keep itsself afloat, be it an opposing magnetic foce or a generater system. That would explain that bottom pieces of the traveler seeming to be missing. We are digging into it.
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On one hand...how could Bungie not carry over some of their themes? On the other...they are trying to make something new. That said...I think that the idea of the sphere being completely dead I think is the least likely of any of the options. Either it is an AI...maybe one that has to be turned back on again in some way? Could be a mission trying to figure out all that stuff... Or it is run by some dude or group of dudes that's like mostly dead or hibernating or something. Which is kind of weird...but stranger things have happened and still been cool concepts...
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I very much hope it's an AI, mostly because I don't want it to be too much of a truly 'magic' object. Bungie excels in making future technology believable and realistic, and actual magic would kinda kill that for me. I hope the 'magic' the Traveler lends the guardians will be in the form of new technology. And as you said, they already have experience with AI.
