Well, I'm not a depressed sack of shit so I'm all good.

[quote]I always see this in many threads when people saying things like this: "You can do whatever you want, it's YOUR life." "I can do what I want, it won't affect anyone else" "Leave me alone, I'm independent and can do what I want."[/quote] In a way, they are right. [quote] Are all of you guys orphans who grew up raised by wolves or monkeys?! There is ALWAYS somebody there that cares a little for you, otherwise you still wouldn't be alive. When some pothead tells me they can do whatever they want nobody cares so leave me alone, I reply: "What kind of shit do you smoke?" Do you think you can do whatever you want, whether it be bad or good and nobody but YOU will be affected? [/quote] So people shouldn't be allowed to make decisions that might affect someone else? Should I be banned from getting a job because someone else might want it? Should 19 yr. olds who support themselves be banned from getting tattoos if it makes their parents angry at them? [quote] People say that it's victim blaming when saying people who commit suicide are assholes. People get mad when you keep people from doing drugs. People say it's child abuse when a parent is too hard on their kids for grades (read: Asian parents). But I say it -blam!-ing isn't wrong to do such things. People who commit suicide over money situations, abuse, -blam!-, depression, war, bullying, etc. believe that they live in a bubble. I think they cared too much about their image, or their money, or the pressure got to them and they forgot about reality. I understand that you may be in a horrid situation, I'm not denying the fact that there is suffering in this world. But when people kill themselves over it, their statement is lost in the wind. When a girl kills herself because she posted nudes and they've gone viral over the internet, and then kills herself...what the actual -blam!-. Why give HER sympathy? Why make it a sob story?[/quote] You don't know anything about psychology. SHOCKER: you can't "think your way out" of depression. Yes, there are cases like the girl you mentioned, but another shocker, not all suicides are like that. [quote] [url=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/navy-seals-rescue-two-aid-workers-in-somalia-in-daring-raid/]We had aid workers held hostage by Somalians[/url] for three months! Did they go through hell? Most likely more hell then any angsty teenager in Europe and the US. But they waited, and waited, and waited...and then...SEAL TEAMS SIX -blam!-ING SHOWED UP! Had they killed themselves they would look quite dumb in 20/20 hindsight, and there would be some sob story on the news, oh and we'd never have gotten those Somalis.[/quote] They had something to go home to, they had a life to get back to. People with depression don't have anything to get them out of their pain. [quote] And before somebody makes up some hypothetical situation in which some poor little kid is getting beaten all day and -blam!- all night by his dad, why don't these stories ever make the news or the paper? Nobody hears the screams? Do they live in the middle of Antarctica or the Sahara Desert!? I mean what the actual -blam!-?! If you MAKE UP the most horrific situation and use that against me, do me a favor and screw off or cite something. [/quote] Just because a parent isn't as bad the extreme cases, doesn't mean abusive parents don't contribute to suicides. [quote] tl;dr: My point is stop thinking your actions DON'T have repercussions. The people who helped keep you alive by raising you have invested time and money, and I daresay love, to keep you around. Don't -blam!-ing waste it by kicking the bucket ahead of schedule. Power through damn it, if you're going through hell, keep going.[/quote] So why bother trying to make anything better? Bad things are, just live with the shit and pain because OP said so, and OP is infinitely more important than you.

I -blam!-ing hate how everyone's attack on suicidal people is "YOUR FAMILY'LL BE SAD WAHHH". Suicide is a last resort used by people who just see no hope in their situation. Family doesn't matter at that point, making your family happy by simply staying alive doesn't help your awful situation. And god damn, I hate how everyone acts like they 100% know what a person is going through, and spout out "YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT DON'T THINK ABOUT SUICIDE" like an idiot. And even on your point of teen girls who off themselves due to internet nudes, you act as though every single girl who was a victim of this was some slut who willingly posted them for all to see.

Look, this is a well thought out thread with obviously a lot of content we can unpack. But what I think OP is forgetting is that you can do whatever you want, it's YOUR life. Heck, I can do what I want, it won't affect anyone else. And he really needs to leave me alone, I'm independent and can do what I want.

I agree with your overall point, but not the entire post. I had knew someone who almost killed them self. They had an extremely shitty up-bringing and one night deiced they were going to overdose on some pills. Apparently while in the process of taking the pills, they stopped because they realized what it would do to their friends. The reason that person didn't die is because they didn't want to hurt the people that cared about them. But, from what i've seen, suicide can't be rationalized the way we think it can. I've never been in a dark enough place to even consider suicide, and i'm not going to pretend i understand what it's like. But i imagine it's similar to when you get carried away with some strong emotion, like anger. There was a time when i was so mad about something that i physically wanted to hurt someone. The only reason i didn't is because i wasn't around that person. When something like that happens you're not thinking of anything beyond the feeling and the moment. A lot of people can probably relate to that. Now imagine that the anger is replaced by some terrible sadness, and the desire to hurt someone else is replaced with hurting yourself. It's easy to get carried away with thoughts and emotions. I do it all the time. But if it's the wrong combination of circumstances, people can die. So i disagree with the bit about people who killed themselves not being victims. You're right, it is selfish, but i doubt that even occurs to them. It's not as black and white as we'd like to believe. Nothing is. However, i do completely agree that more people need to realize that all of their actions have repercussions that go beyond their own personal lives. We cant even comprehend the effects of our actions and they shouldn't be taken lightly. A little bad can turn into a lot of bad, and on the other hand, a little good can turn into a lot of good.

[quote]People who commit suicide over money situations, abuse, -blam!-, depression, war, bullying, etc. believe that they live in a bubble. I think they cared too much about their image, or their money, or the pressure got to them and they forgot about reality.[/quote] So you're openly admitting that you have no -blam!-ing idea what goes through the mind of a person who is so severely depressed that they think suicide is the answer and still think people who commit suicide are lowly? -blam!- off.

There need to be more "like" buttons for this thread. That was the greatest thing I have read, in recent memory. Edit: It seems like most of the people in here have never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

I will leave no bubble in popped ...

I agree. But I still think that suicide should be a personal choice. If they seriously feel that their life isn't worth living anymore, let them do what they will. I agree with you on everything you've said though. People do live in their own little bubbles. Everything we do in our lives does effect something somewhere else, somehow, someway. Bravo OP. People shouldn't make such hasty decisions and should really consider the pros and cons of their actions before they carry them out.

Was an Excellent movie.

Whatever whatever, I do what I want.

[quote]People who commit suicide over money situations, abuse, -blam!-, depression, war, bullying, etc. believe that they live in a bubble. I think they cared too much about their image, or their money, or the pressure got to them and they forgot about reality. I understand that you may be in a horrid situation, I'm not denying the fact that there is suffering in this world. But when people kill themselves over it, their statement is lost in the wind. When a girl kills herself because she posted nudes and they've gone viral over the internet, and then kills herself...what the actual -blam!-. Why give HER sympathy? Why make it a sob story?[/quote] Laughing at you so much right now. LMAO. I'm actually laughing out loud.

ITT: angsty teenagers attempt to be edgy in order to piss off other angsty teenagers

This is the flood.

The reality is.. money is very important.. you don't have it.. your not going anywhere in life that you'll enjoy. Money buys almost all happiness.. sad.. but true.

Rational. Emotional. Pick one. We are often cognitively impaired when we are emotional, and we all have our limits. I wish people could step back and examine things, but I think perspective is a privilege that we can sadly easily lose sight of.

Honestly, you fail to assert why anyone should consider the effect on others. If smoking drugs and committing crimes makes you happiest why shouldn't you do it. You can only ever know what one person really wants, you have to assume what others want, why try to please a maybe when you can please yourself with absolute success by simply acting only to cause personal happiness.

Some people are just like

This is a dumbass thread. I stopped reading at this completely retarded sentence. "When some pothead tells me they can do whatever they want nobody cares so leave me alone"

Nailed it. 10/10