And the idea that losing your virginity makes you a man and not just some sap who was fooled into believing what he was told. Let's discuss how people who don't know any better will believe anything that they're told because they have nothing else to go on; then they stick to the learning as it were a fact. Let's discuss how refining your soul (or so to speak), improving your patience and understanding of life makes you a whimp, and how lifting weights on the other hand makes you manly. Are we informed or are we misinformed?