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This thread is inspired by another: view original post
Edited by Bolt:
7/19/2013 7:38:31 PM
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Open Letter to Sapphire
Edit: Didn't mean to make a thread but oh well.
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[b]Posted by: Harlow[/b]
Not usually the type to preach this message, but I'll say it about this community.
Give up.
No really, leave. The administration/moderation here has no interest in doing any work to make the community even tolerable - the mute button is just an implemented feature so they finally have an excuse to just let you deal with your own shit. Random people aren't going to listen to fellow users in no positions of power like you or me, so if those with power don't care enough, then you're simply wasting your breath. Find another place to spend your free time, maybe one where community leaders actually give some effort into keeping things clean.
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So here's what I don't get about Sapphire: Why do you want our attention?
Why, if you're so convinced that the flood as a whole, is full of people you consider "intolerable," do you want us to pay attention to you?
Look, I was absent during whatever time Sapphire arose and became hated by "The Flood," but the only things I've seen it do in the time I've been back is post inflammatory threads that you [i]openly[/i] admitted were designed to attract interest.
[i][b]Why?[/b][/i] Do you want to change the culture here? Are you really so fantastically ignorant that you think the arbitrary distinctions between Sapphire's culture and The Flood's culture make Sapphire "correct"? Because all I see is someone whining that the moderators of this site won't force everyone to adapt to their mindset, which wouldn't work even if they did try that. On top of that, for all your supposed "moral superiority," the fact that that the only way you can seem to think of to spread your message is trolling is -blam!-ing pathetic.
Leave or don't, but don't act like the moderators owe you a site that fits your sensitivities. The mute function is a ridiculously great step in that direction anyway, and you piss on it because someone won't press it for you.
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Well, Harlow gave his closing statement, so I might as well give mine. To the members of Sapphire: I don't hate Sapphire and I don't hate you; I'm not your enemy. I didn't set out to flame you or bring out hatred against you on purpose, or at least, not without a purpose. I wanted some answers to some very important questions, so I may have held your feet to the fire to get them. The rights of transsexuals, homosexuals, women, and minorities are very important issues. I agree with your leaders on pretty much all of them, and some of them have a very personal meaning to me. This is, perhaps, why I lashed out against your leaders. From my perspective, it appeared that Sapphire was promoting those issues just to get attention for itself. I'd be lying if I said it didn't still seem that way in some sense. Even in this thread, they've stated that any publicity for the group is good publicity. I think this trivializes the issues they promote. Look at all the hatred you've managed to get turned against you. 90% (more in this thread) of the people expressing that sentiment haven't said one word about the causes you claim to stand for. They don't hate you for your purported beliefs, they hate you because of the way you act, and by associating yourself with these causes, you're distributing that hatred to them. Don't assume because you converted one that you didn't alienate five. Regardless, I've said what I wanted to say to your leadership. I don't think the "any attention is good attention" is respectful to this community, or to yours. How are you not supposed to feel like a sucker when your leader posts "Ha-Ha we got members from the troll anyway!"? I've also expressed to Jay that I think tolerance is about more than shaming the intolerant. See the sub-thread of Felicia's thread that "inspired" this thread if you care about that. In conclusion, I don't see a reason why Sapphire and the Bnet community can't coexist, and I don't see a reason why Harlow and Jay can't be here, and if they really believe what they claim to believe, I don't think they'll leave. I feel like I understand the hatred better now as well, mainly because I can see that it isn't one-sided. We've all acted shitty towards each other, but I don't see why that has to be the end of us. I also issue one last challenge Harlow and Jay; if you really want to make this about the issues and not about you, you can start by showing some humility towards the people that hate you. It's not like you have anything to lose, and you just might gain some respect.
