originally posted in:Secular Sevens
Personally, I find the idea of simultaneous support for both religion and science wholly incompatible. Here's my thought process:
- Scientists support the [url=http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientific_method2.gif]scientific method[/url].
- Faith-based religion conflicts with the scientific method, as religion skips/ignores steps in the scientific method.
- One cannot support the scientific method while simultaneously supporting faith-based religion.
One cannot truly support both science and religion; you're compromising your support in one or the other.
Thoughts? Explain your position.
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I find that necro-bumping and bait-posting are compatible.
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I'm not religious, but don't see why the "clockmaker" theory of religion (I.e. Some higher power created the universe and its laws, and now allows it to operate according to those laws) is incompatible with what has been scientifically observed. Science currently states the universe began with the Big Bang; all the clockmaker view does is posit a prime mover which caused the bang to happen. This theory simply tries to explain why there should even be a universe in the first place, rather than looking for God behind every incident. So no, depending on the religion, not incompatible.
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I think Buddhism is compatible with science
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Okay, so someone put it this way and I really liked it: Science-based individuals prefer to look at the facts before coming to a conclusion. Faith-based individuals prefer coming to a conclusion, and looking at facts that support the conclusion. It would be hypocritical to follow both on religious terms, in my opinion.
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Only on The Creation
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Hard to say. It really depends on the religion. Why not just start a new religion that is compatible with science but still gives people comfort over death and bonds them together as a social group?
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This video answers every question.
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Always loved this quote. And this guy. Not really a Buddhist but I feel there is a lot that can be universally helpful in thier philosophy.
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Yeah, its called scientology
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Religion guides us on how to live morally and ethically and science explains how the world and things work. They are parallel. ll
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The founder of modern genetics was an Augustinian friar. Checkmate.
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Don't mind me, just a random Christian walking through.
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Edited by Britton: 3/15/2015 4:17:35 AMNo they [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=nQcFVa_wMs_uoATn-4LgBw&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dyy5yWdVHv3o&ved=0CBwQtwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNHWupm8pYKSDbpkZoxnywIsdsqBYA&sig2=53uD1V9oV17sS-IiSf8hIg]aren't[/url]
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Judaism states that any law proposed by religion that is evidently dismissed by science is incorrect. That being said, jews suck... soooo.... nope. Science and religion don't cooperate.
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Religion is aimed at answering the why questions of the universe, while science is addressed at the what and how questions. That said, Religion is often not compatible due to the pig headed nature of the religious, although anti-theists are trying very hard to bridge their end of the gap with pig headed behavior as well.
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"Science and Religion are not at odds, science is simply too young to understand." -Leonardo Vetra, [u]Angels and Demons[/u]
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I personally am atheist, the new pope was just quoted saying that with out science there is no religion and that god is not a wizard with a magic wand, with out science religion simply doesn't make sense. He is probably one of the smartest popes to walk this earth lmao
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Edited by MajorCrabs: 11/8/2014 7:16:20 AMWe are talking about two very different philosophies. There really is no reason why science and religion should be compatible. The two are not comparable. If I say that science is not compatible to religion it really doesn't mean anything because both philosophies aren't in the same league. For example if I were to say, "science is not compatible with politics," what would that even mean? Does that mean politics is worth less now? I get the feeling that some people think that if they answer no to that question that it has negative connotations towards religion. In short no I dont think the two are compatible. I will leave a quote, [quote]Science answers the hypothetical; religion answers the questions science can't. [/quote]
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why do people still care what people believe in....
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sure they are... one can live their entire lives supporting the scientific method...yet have faith there is something beyond that. much of science relies on faith...faith in answers to questions that are being posed within the confines of the scientific method..and faith in progress to make a better world. i can tell you that scientists don't have a nonemotional response to their subject matter, (at least much of the time). they can be passionate about their studies. it is like looking for a cure to a disease...they have hope and furthermore one might say faith that a solution exists. and a number of things which were once considered to be magical or supernatural have been revealed by science for their reality. there is a lot of crossover between the supernatural and science. i just feel they are concepts, (science and religion), that are processed in different was. just as their is no scientific way to prove who makes the best chocolate cake empirically, there may not be a scientific method to discover a number of truths, if in fact those truths exist. and lastly, most true scientists, though they have their own opinions and can be absolute in them, often will admit the limitations of their own knowledge and the truth that they could be wrong.
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Edited by RIGOR: 11/8/2014 6:24:12 AMTalking snakes don't exist, you don't even need science for that one so religion is not compatible with actual models on reality.
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No, so much of religion is based on archaic beliefs and it has impeded scientific advancement for a thousand years.
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I can't really say yes or no because the answer is much more nuanced than that. Religion is very personal and affects people's worldviews in every conceivable variety. So in short, yeah, sometimes.
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Edited by Shpip: 11/8/2014 2:17:44 AMDepends on the religion, I guess. Most conflict with one another.