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They don't creep on girls because they don't know it's wrong lmao they creep on them because they don't care. Society burns and hammers things like gender differences in our heads long before we even get an inkling of puberty. The fact you think these people commit acts of sexual harassment out of pure lack of knowledge is mind blowing. You think they don't know they can't harass women and that's why they do? Are you -blam!-ing kidding me? You're thread telling them what they already know will do absolutely nothing and the fact you think it will shows just how stupid you are. All of your threads are so mind numbingly unintelligent it hurts to know you're allowed a keyboard. You SERIOUSLY think someone's going to read your thread and go "Oh, I shouldn't tell women to suck my dick and fondle my balls over the internet? Gee golly assaultprodigy you really taught me something, who knew?" You're complete lack of any thought process is something amazing in itself. Every thread you make is at a 4th grade level of intellect.
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Society also burns things like MORALS into our heads as well. Do you know what these are, clearly you don't. [quote]The fact you think these people commit acts of sexual harassment out of pure lack of knowledge is mind blowing[/quote] You are a -blam!-ing moron. Where did I ever say this. The creepers usually creep because they think it's funny. That's is something that can be fixed. But it's retarded morons like you that don't -blam!-ing read or have any understanding of anything. You are a -blam!-ing moron who shouldn't be allowed to post on this site or any site on the internet. You are a sorry piece of shit. Do you understand me. You are SHIT. I would treat my dog better then you because my dog is at least intelligent to a curtain degree.
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To a curtain degree, lmfao. Also you asked me why this is still an issue then? Directly implying your thread here would help stop them, no? In fact if you didn't think it would help stop them, you wouldn't have made it. You are in fact even giving them 'Dos and Donts" AKA teaching them, AKA educating them. The only reason you would educate them is due to the fact you think they don't know the knowledge you are giving them. As previously stated, I don't think your mind can even comprehend it's own thought processes. Even to the point you simply can't understand my post. That makes you mad and you think I'm blabbing nonsense and that I'm a moron, in reality you simply don't understand what you implied with your own post. I'll make this as simple as possible. You wrote this thread with the intention of educating the male masses on how to interact with women in Destiny, by laying out a list of "Dos and Donts". You thought if you educated them it would stop them from committing acts of sexual harassment. This would directly imply that you, in fact, think the reason behind sexual harassment of women in video games is due to a lack of knowledge. Thus, a direct example of "Dos and Donts" is the optimal approach in stopping sexual harassment, which is, your goal. I then laughed in your face because if you think lack of knowledge is the reason behind these acts you're socially inept, and if you don't think that's the reason, you choose to lay out this thread in the worst possible way you could of to get to your initial point. Also a side note, there are various ways of implying things without actually saying them, body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, assembly of your point etc. You do not need to say something to imply it. Hopefully you understand and don't simply get mad and rage again.
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Im not making anyone follow these rules but you want to be a little bitch and complain. Saying that Im forcing these rule down you thought. Why do you think that everyone creeps on purpose. You think that everyone that creeps knows that they are creeping and that's not the case you moron. What makes me "mad" is when people like you try to interpreter this message into something that's wrong. When people like you that have little idea of what they are talking about actually start talking like they have a better understanding of what I'm trying to say only to be completely of base. It's annoying trying to retarded people like you. [quote] I'll make this as simple as possible. You wrote this thread with the intention of educating the male masses on how to interact with women in Destiny, by laying out a list of "Dos and Donts". You thought if you educated them it would stop them from committing acts of sexual harassment. This would directly imply that you, in fact, think the reason behind sexual harassment of women in video games is due to a lack of knowledge. Thus, a direct example of "Dos and Donts" is the optimal approach in stopping sexual harassment, which is, your goal. [/quote] This is what I am talking about. You interpreted my message to what you wanted it to be. You Assume that I think the reason behind sexual harassment of women in video games is due to a lack of knowledge and that ASSUMPTION would be wrong and totally off base. So let me school you. I think that harassment on video games come from people that either enjoy harassing others or who do not know they are harassing others. I'm talking to the ladder here. The problem is not a lack of knowledge, but a lack of quality people playing games. Trolls (like you) and assholes fill up the gaming community and dilute it. It seems to me that you have serious issues. You can't understand what you read, and when you are not able to understand it you just assume what you think to be true. This is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. I would help you but I'm not the type of guy to help lost causes like you.
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Edited by A Purring Snake: 10/30/2013 6:39:13 AMYou're talking to a ladder? I don't think they can talk. It's latter. Anyway I never implied or said you were forcing anything on anyone, I said you were trying to educate them, education does not need force. I told you how I got my reason for assuming you thought it was through lack of knowledge, considering a "Dos and Donts" list is to educate. That's what they're for. Their purpose is to be read and understood as guidelines. Things to do, and not to do. Why educate someone through guidelines if the root of the problem is not their knowledge itself? Considering they already have the knowledge, since you say knowledge is not the reason, they'd just be reading off things they already know, now wouldn't they? Which would make this thread, a "Dos and Don't" list, useless. You did not articulate your point correctly, educating, AKA adding to their knowledge, was not the right way to go about the problem you wish to tackle. Your capacity to argue this is even worse, you could of at least thought of something remotely clever other than calling me names as you agree with my points. Sad part is, I don't even know whether you realize you were agreeing with me. My whole post went right over your head. Also, you call me little boy and guess that I'm in high school.....in your other thread didn't you say you were at homecoming? LMFAO. If posting on an online forum during homecoming isn't the epitome of loser itself, you also managed to demean yourself while doing it. BAHAHAHA. As my likes rack up in your threads I can't help but wonder if your trolling me or really this stupid. If it's the latter, not the ladder, then I sincerely hope you don't spread those genes into the future pool of my offspring. Hopefully this time everything I say won't go over your head.
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Looks like we got a moron here. I don't think latter can talk either. Sexual harassment of women frequently occurs in the context of video gaming, a largely male-dominated genre.[1] [quote]The most common forms are verbal harassment and text harassment of female gamers through offensive messages from male players. The BBC and Forbes report that a specific website compiles quotes from these messages. [1][2][3] Generally, the offensive online messages use obscene language. Women gamers have reportedly been offered money or virtual “gold” for online sex.[4] Online sexual harassment is faced by female players in game play as well as in tournament play. [5] In professional-level on-line gaming tournaments, sexual harassment is used in interactions and strategy.[6] One competitor is quoted as saying, "Sexual harassment and the fighting game community are 'one and the same thing,'"[6] referencing a belief in the first-person shooters community that gender stereotyping and sexual harassment are part of gaming culture[/quote Grace, an editor of the website Fat, Ugly, or Slutty, said, “When it’s discovered that [a player is] a woman, the abuse changes. It’ll become more concentrated from a lot of players at once or the content changes: It becomes a lot more sexualized or becomes violent.” [quote] These threats don’t just come from obnoxious teens: they come from grown men, as attested to voice recordings of players found on NotintheKitchenAnymore. Among many others, James Bosier is motivated to see harassment end. A father of a young girl, he said, “I’m afraid of what her first interaction with somebody online will be. It’s a shame this is an even an issue. I can’t imagine than women couldn’t play golf because they’re sexually harassed by everybody playing.” Although many believe this harassment comes from a vocal minority, it’s time for both players and games companies to actively stamp it out. Here’s how:[/quote] But according to you. This is no big problem and everyone know that this is wrong. You see what you doing is assuming that you know and understand how other people think. Which is retarded by the way. Once again I never said that knowledge was the problem. I said that this was just a problem. I never signaled out why it is a problem [quote] Also, you call me little boy and guess that I'm in high school.....in your other thread didn't you say you were at homecoming?[/quote] Now you're just making things up little kid lol. Im in college boy
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1. You're in college yet you don't know the difference between than and then, latter and ladder, curtain and certain? 2.You completely dodge every point I make and don't even comment on them, rule number one of a debate, follow the debate. 3. Quoting a picture of text detailing sexual harassment over video games doesn't contest with my point. I never said it isn't a problem, I made fun of the way you went about it. After which I made fun of the fact you can't follow your own train of thought. Quoting a picture of text detailing the problem in this thread won't make me wrong nor will it change your original train of thought and thread format, the topic of this debate. 4.You are correct in that I know the way you think, I also explained your own thought process to you. It was quite evident in the format of your thread. You also never contested my explanation with any details of your "actual" train of thought, even though I'm "wrong". Wouldn't that be the simplest defense? You didn't contest it in detail because you can't, it was correct. 5. You shouldn't call someone with superior linguistic and debating skills little boy, what would that make you? 6.Treating women differently than men is the very root and pure definition of sexism, the main cause of sexual harassment. By telling people to treat women differently, you are encouraging and promoting sexism. "(A.But according to you. This is no big problem and everyone know that this is wrong.) (B.You see what you doing is assuming that you know and understand how other people think. Which is retarded by the way. (A2.Once again I never said that knowledge was the problem.) (C.I said that this was just a problem. I never signaled out why it is a problem") A. I never once said, in any post, sexual harassment wasn't a big problem. I did however say that people do know it's wrong and that educating them on the fact it's wrong won't do anything. You agreed everyone already knows and that this is not a problem of lack of knowledge. B. As previously stated it was quite evident what your train of thought was, it wasn't hard to figure out what you were thinking. I'll quote it for you. "I told you how I got my reason for assuming you thought it was through lack of knowledge, considering a "Dos and Donts" list is to educate. That's what they're for. Their purpose is to be read and understood as guidelines. Things to do, and not to do. Why educate someone through guidelines if the root of the problem is not their knowledge itself? Considering they already have the knowledge, since you say knowledge is not the reason, they'd just be reading off things they already know, now wouldn't they? Which would make this thread, a "Dos and Don't" list, useless. You did not articulate your point correctly, educating, AKA adding to their knowledge, was not the right way to go about the problem you wish to tackle." If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. C. You clearly "signaled out" (LMFAO you don't need the out considering you already signaled) that you thought the problem was knowledge. You don't need to say something to imply something. For instance, structuring of a thread. You structured this thread to add to a person's knowledge, whether that was your goal or not. By using a "Dos and Don'ts" list, who's sole purpose is to add knowledge , to do something other than add knowledge. OK ready, this is how we debate. You take my points and counter them with your points. It's kind of like Battleship, only you know where their ships are. Now use your missiles. Hopefully I repeated myself enough times for it to be burned into that scholarly college brain of yours. But I have to say, you sir, have wasted your money on college LMFAO. Even if this is the result of high school I'd still have to say it's taxpayer money down the drain. Maybe your lack of articulation stems from your inability to produce the English language correctly? That or English is your second language, which I suppose is some what the same thing.
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[quote]1. You're in college yet you don't know the difference between than and then, latter and ladder, curtain and certain? [/quote] No I do I just don't give a damn, this is a Bungie forum so why should I care about my spelling and grammer. [quote] 2.You completely dodge every point I make and don't even comment on them, rule number one of a debate, follow the debate.[/quote] You haven't made a point yet. It's just been mindless rambling. [quote]3. Quoting a picture of text detailing sexual harassment over video games doesn't contest with my point. I never said it isn't a problem, I made fun of the way you went about it. After which I made fun of the fact you can't follow your own train of thought. Quoting a picture of text detailing the problem in this thread won't make me wrong nor will it change your original train of thought and thread format, the topic of this debate. [/quote] No but it helps prove mines. That there problem is real and should be treated seriously. [quote] 5. You shouldn't call someone with superior linguistic and debating skills little boy, what would that make you? [/quote] HA. I'm just not taking this seriously like you are. [quote]superior linguistic and debating skills [/quote]. Please stop kidding yourself here. [quote]6.Treating women differently than men is the very root and pure definition of sexism, the main cause of sexual harassment. By telling people to treat women differently, you are encouraging and promoting sexism. [/quote] Yes you're right I should treat my girlfriend the same way that I threat my brother. I should talk to the the same way as well. Do you see the problem with your logic now. You're not even attempting to find the middle ground which is to just be respectful of women on video games. Instead you are saying that we should treat everyone the same. So if I call my guy friend an asshole or a bitch I should do the same with my girl friend because it' only right. And lets take it further. If I get into a fight with my brother and we start trading blows It would be ok if I do the same with my sister if a smiler situation accuses. Since you clearly don't know the definition of sexism let me show it to you. [quote] Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex.[1] Sexist attitudes may stem from traditional stereotypes of gender roles,[2][full citation needed] and may include the belief that a person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the other.[3] A job applicant may face discriminatory hiring practices, or (if hired) receive unequal compensation or treatment compared to that of their opposite-sex peers.[4] Extreme sexism may foster sexual harassment, -blam!- and other forms of sexual violence.[5] [/quote] Clearly I'm not being prejudice or discriminating chicks. I'm just saying that we should be respectful of them. You need to stop with your white knighting man, because most girl gamers understand that they are entering into a males world when playing online video games and they don't want to be treated like one of the guys, they just want to be treated with respect. [quote] A. I never once said, in any post, sexual harassment wasn't a big problem. I did however say that people do know it's wrong and that educating them on the fact it's wrong won't do anything. You agreed everyone already knows and that this is not a problem of lack of knowledge. [/quote] And I never said that I was aiming for the people who know what they are doing was wrong. There are people who creep without being aware of it. This is understandable and this can be fixed. [quote]B. As previously stated it was quite evident what your train of thought was, it wasn't hard to figure out what you were thinking. I'll quote it for you. "I told you how I got my reason for assuming you thought it was through lack of knowledge, considering a "Dos and Donts" list is to educate. That's what they're for. Their purpose is to be read and understood as guidelines. Things to do, and not to do. Why educate someone through guidelines if the root of the problem is not their knowledge itself? Considering they already have the knowledge, since you say knowledge is not the reason, they'd just be reading off things they already know, now wouldn't they? Which would make this thread, a "Dos and Don't" list, useless. You did not articulate your point correctly, educating, AKA adding to their knowledge, was not the right way to go about the problem you wish to tackle." If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. [/quote] So you're saying that we shouldn't educate someone who doesn't know they are doing something wrong through guidelines...................ok then how do we educate them??? [quote]C. You clearly "signaled out" (LMFAO you don't need the out considering you already signaled) that you thought the problem was knowledge. You don't need to say something to imply something. For instance, structuring of a thread. You structured this thread to add to a person's knowledge, whether that was your goal or not. By using a "Dos and Don'ts" list, who's sole purpose is to add knowledge , to do something other than add knowledge[/quote]. I don't see where I said the problem was knowledge. The problem is accountability. You're doing that Assuming thing again and it tends to make you look like an ass. [quote] OK ready, this is how we debate. You take my points and counter them with your points. It's kind of like Battleship, only you know where their ships are. Now use your missiles. Hopefully I repeated myself enough times for it to be burned into that scholarly college brain of yours. But I have to say, you sir, have wasted your money on college LMFAO. Even if this is the result of high school I'd still have to say it's taxpayer money down the drain. Maybe your lack of articulation stems from your inability to produce the English language correctly? That or English is your second language, which I suppose is some what the same thing[/quote] I see your debate...........I see you trying to lean on spelling mistakes to try to prove your point. I see that you're assuming again. Stop assuming. I see that you never had a clear understanding of what I was saying to being with but yet and still built up you're own theory and hypnotist off of what you thought was correct. I'm not going to argue this with you I'm just going to look at your argument and ask how far will you go to try to prove this point that you are trying to make.
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Edited by A Purring Snake: 11/1/2013 7:41:15 AMTalk to your brother the same as your girlfriend? Why would you sexually harass your girlfriend? Why would you choose something completely irrelevant to the topic for your basis? If you don't care about spelling why would you spell everything else correctly? Because you don't know the English language well enough to articulate your point. So now you say you want to educate and add knowledge, while a few posts ago you didn't? You clearly said you didn't. Multiple times. I don't have a point? I repeated my point 4 times in the above post, probably over 10 times total. You change your view every post. In all honesty your ability to read and write what you think are below a third grade level. I sincerely wish I wasn't kidding. How can you miss my point? Well it's clear you actually just can't read the big words and follow the multi-step sentences I'm forming. You're in college? You literally cannot comprehend my post. In any case, thanks for the 20+ likes I received trying to tell you your own thought process, which you still cannot comprehend.
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[quote]Talk to your brother the same as your girlfriend? Why would you sexually harass your girlfriend?[/quote] That's the question I am asking you because you want to treat everyone the same. It's not irrelevant because it's the point that YOU are trying so hard to make. Why would you make a big deal about a misspelled word when I can go through each off you post and find misspelled words. It's not a big deal. I know the English but it's not required to post perfect English on this site so why would I. Normally when someone starts bashing someone else spelling then they are getting desperate, because it's not a good argument to begin with. No one is forcing me to spell correctly, but back to the topic at hand. The View of the post has stayed the same. Your point was weak to begin with. "treat everyone the same" how white knight can you be. So to end, not only do you have no argument, you have resulted to petty name calling. You are as mature as 5th grader with is said because I only assume that you are older then that. PS on my clan page i have this net feature to see who likes what in one of my threads. Yeah out of your 20 plus likes that you are so proud of, we given out by a total of 5 people......................I think we are done here.
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Edited by A Purring Snake: 11/4/2013 3:43:43 AMWouldn't treating women differently than men would be white knighting, not the other way around? Um, duh? My stance is against treating them more politely, how would I be white knighting and you not? I won't allow myself to believe you're that stupid. Not to mention my point was not equality it was how stupid the lay out of your thread was and how a college student can't articulate a simple point. This still has gone over your head, 20 posts later. How -blam!-ing oblivious can you be? I literally stated it 5 times in a single post. Here I'll -blam!-ing outline it for you 10 more times. [u] If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. [/u] Also your brother and girlfriend have other roles than just male and female you -blam!-ing idiot. You have to apply those roles too if you're going to use them as examples you -blam!-ing moron. Obviously I don't tell my brother he's beautiful and I want to rail him, I tell my girlfriend that. But I suppose since you say there's no difference you in fact tell your brother he's beautiful and rail him. It's like you're completely oblivious to the things you imply when you speak. Honestly you're the typical dumb blonde in every sitcom. "I think you should treat girls with more respect and be more polite to them than you are to men, but you're white knighting." kjnodaieedOVBSLVOLBVHOLSVOLhyb Read that. You just did that. You actually just did that. My only reaction is dnfpwUBRPVAIUERBUERBA;NPRF. If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. If your point was not to add to their knowledge, why would you use a tool (Dos and Don'ts list) that has one purpose, adding knowledge? It's equivalent to putting a square block through a circular hole, no? I'll repeat this, you did not articulate your point in a manner advantageous to your goal. You couldn't. a college student, put your thoughts in words. You couldn't even use proper English spelling and grammar in the words you so proudly produced. I found this and your other threads hilariously stupid. Maybe if you read this enough -blam!-ing times you'll FINALLY comprehend my point.
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Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex.[1] Sexist attitudes may stem from traditional stereotypes of gender roles,[2][3] and may include the belief that a person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the other.[4] A job applicant may face discriminatory hiring practices, or (if hired) receive unequal compensation or treatment compared to that of their opposite-sex peers.[5] Extreme sexism may foster sexual harassment, -blam!- and other forms of sexual violence.[6] Why am I showing you this, because this is the definition of sexism. This is what you are calling white knighting. [quote]My stance is against treating them more politely, how would I be white knighting and you not? I won't allow myself to believe you're that stupid. Not to mention my point was not equality it was how stupid the lay out of your thread was and how a college student can't articulate a simple point. This still has gone over your head, 20 posts later. How -blam!-ing oblivious can you be? I literally stated it 5 times in a single post. Here I'll -blam!-ing outline it for you 10 more times.[/quote] This proves that you're a sexes. I don't need to read anymore because in your entire 7 paragraph all you talk about is spelling. We are done here.