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originally posted in: When should you lose your virginity?
12/20/2013 4:57:48 PM
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When you get married. Sweet Jesus, I hope you're a troll.
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  • Uh, in the Hmong culture, some people have arranged marriages where they have their kids married by the time they're 12. So... yeah.

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  • I was just in a red dzao village and can confirm this. When you are married isnt a time frame.

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  • Consenting marriage that is legal in the eyes of American government. Better?

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  • Torture is legal in the eyes of the American government. Sex should not be a bureaucrats decision... if it feels fun, why get permission from the government... faaark them

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  • It technically [i]is[/i] consenting marriage and legal in the American government due to it being culturally related. That and it's from both responsible parties (The parents), who agreed to it. They're still married, why can't they have sex, especially if it's in their culture?

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  • There's no reason to respect a person's insistence that they be allowed to force children into marriage (or a sexual relationship) just because it's 'in their culture'. That's [i]really[/i] screwed up.

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  • I'm not Hmong, but I grew up around a LOT of Hmong kids that I still talk to even today. I even speak to their brothers and sisters. The Hmong culture is something that the average American would consider "wrong" since there are a whole bunch of things in there that would be seen as disturbing. Their religion is based off of good and evil spirits, they have shamans, and their marriages aren't the typical ones that we'd see in movies. Hmong weddings aren't very disturbing, but the age group (Depending on whether or not the family is first gen, second gen, etc) can be pretty disturbing. Who's to say that their culture is wrong, just because it doesn't follow societal norms of American culture, though? For me, do I find it disturbing? I always find friends getting married quite disturbing, especially if they have grown up with me. I'm not judging their culture as a whole, or their decisions, because I know I don't have a full grasp of their culture, but I have experienced enough of it to say that it's unique.

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  • [quote]Who's to say that their culture is wrong, just because it doesn't follow societal norms of American culture, though? [/quote] It's not a matter of 'societal norms'. We don't prevent parents from marrying their children off because oh that's just our culture, we do it because it's disgustingly unethical to force children into that kind of relationship. It absolutely baffles me how you can possibly think "Oh, well, it's just [i]their culture[/i]" excuses unethical actions.

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  • I meant consent by the people actually getting married that isn't forced.

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  • That 12 year old must be very mature then if they know everything about marriage. I'm not even sure if the law will allow a 12 year old to make their own decision if their parents are still alive and they are still under custody of their parents.

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  • That's the point. I'm not condoning marriage at 12 or anytime before age 18.

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  • Marriage is way more disgusting than sex.

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  • I still respect it, even if it's something that I didn't do or would think of putting my kids through. It's a culture that's deeply rooted in their respective families. Who am I to judge their family decisions if I'm not part of their immediate family or their group?

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  • Just because it's culturally legitimate or traditional doesn't mean it's morally right. But I can see where you're coming from.

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  • It's not my place to judge. Morality is subjective. Do I consider it morally wrong? I consider many things morally wrong, with that being one of them in a very long list. However, what I consider morally wrong, someone else might consider alright in their books.

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  • True. That's when Jiminy Cricket comes into play. Of course, some people completely lack a conscience in the first place.

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  • Lol beta male ^^^^

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  • Not a male.

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