[quote]Enjin is cheap and dirty. It takes very little skill and they have horrible policies, and as far as I am aware they are a huge rip-off in terms of prices. [/quote] Enjin is used by MILLIONS of people around the world. That shows it's success in user demand. It may be "Cheap and dirty" to you, but millions of others must think otherwise. Not everyone is a genius at creating websites and it's an effective and easy alternative to creating a site rather than trying to create a site from scratch and get it hosted online. And as for the price, it's not bad. [quote]Secondly, the second that I saw there was ranking and age bias I was immediately turned away. While I myself am not young that doesn't mean I agree with this restriction. [/quote] Our Clan is for players over the age of 15. We've made it so because we mostly prefer to game with an older age group. If you don't like that, don't join! And our ranking is not biased whatsoever by age. Our trainee rank is just a rank we give until you play 1 game with a mentor online. [quote]All this plus the fact that your website tiles tells me that this group is probably nothing more than a half thought through mess that is probably going to be run by power hungry tyrants no older than 16 - 18 who want control of others. [/quote] A half thought through mess? In my humble opinion, I think we are FAR more organised than any other Destiny clan out there in terms of creating fireteams, squads and helping new players find a fireteam that suits there needs. We currently have Gaming montages, Podcasts, and game nights all in the works weekly. If that's a "half thought through mess" I'd love to see you create a clan/community that's been so successful You also say: [quote]probably going to be run by power hungry tyrants no older than 16 - 18 who want control of others. [/quote] Previously you said we we're biased by age, so do you disapprove of younger people being leaders? We have many younger guardians who are highly ranked in the clan for their efforts. So you're being hypocritical there... And I'm 21 for the record. I mean there is other places to go to find players like the sites you named, but they won't be as easily accessible as a clan with the usual guys you play with.