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2/20/2014 3:08:10 AM
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That was not the Forerunner's best ship, it was out dated by 10,000 years by the time of the Flood. And it was tanking the entire ODP defense grid, each firing 51.6 gigatons, rendering them entirely useless. The Infinity is explicitly the most powerful UNSC weapon, equipped as it is with Forerunner technology, and it only punched a small hole in a thin plate section of the ship.
The Forerunners regularly employed tens of thousands of ships in fleets, with some of the smallest being designated "planet breakers." The strength of basic Forerunner ship weaponry has been calc'd to be high gigatons to low-end terratons, and have retained the capacity to force stars into supernova, a tactic they used as standard during the Flood war.
By no means are even the ICS calcs, which are the absolute highest end calcs that, when put under scrutiny, do not stack up to most depictions, capable of contending with the Forerunner military and industrial juggernaut.
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Edited by Nul Arc: 2/20/2014 3:14:22 AMWell the wiki stated that it was the most heavily armed and fastest forerunner ship, so I used that as a basis. At that the The Acclamator isn't even close to being a major player in Star Wars engagements. Forgive me as I don't know what ICS stands for.
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It was a flagship, but it's not the best in the fleet. That likely goes to the considerably smaller, albeit more well armed all around, Fortress, a 100km long behemoth. Incredible Cross Sections is the book that gave the power for the Acclamator, which while sounding impressive, doesn't really make much sense. We've seen Acclamators bombard planets, we've seem the effects that SW weaponry has in battle, it simply doesn't stack up. If they were really that powerful, and orbital bombardment would be finished in 1 shot with half a continent blown into the atmosphere. But that isn't the case. A lot of more serious fans who are into studying the technology of sci-fi don't really take ICS stats very seriously, judging from the debates I've seen.
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Thanks, for the info! What about the starforge? What are the actual calcs for the strongest weapons on each universe? Can the precursors control black holes? I don't really know much about who would win, but I find the info interesting.
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Edited by ROBERTO jh: 2/20/2014 4:04:40 AMThe Star Forge would be impressive in most universes, it can create essentially an endless supply of ships and other mechanical weapons and armor from the raw material in the star that powers it. To the Forerunners however, it is just a simply factory. Read this thread, http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/ and pay special attention to the posts made by the user named Rama, he goes into extensive detail with mathematical proofs discussing the military and industrial might of the Forerunners. As an example, assuming the Onyx Dyson Sphere was constructed over a span of 8,000 years, "the Forerunners would have to assemble 1,120,716 cubic kilometers of material per second. To put it into accepted SW-vs-ST parlance, that's the equivalent of manufacturing the second Death Star every five minutes, non-stop, for nearly eight thousand years - or stripping away an Earth sized planet every nine days." This was a simple proof of concept project under a limited budget, and the Didact created at least 450 other smaller Dyson spheres under the same limited budget. The Forerunners strip mined entire planets--as in, the planets themselves were considered resources, and they broke them completely apart to harvest the resources deep in the core, as well as everything else. The Star Forge is frankly small potatoes, and I do not even think it is as fast the industrial capacity of a single Forerunner world. Forerunners could "grow" ships from a design seed within minutes, so if they grew one ship for each planet in their Empire at the same time, they would have 3,000,000+ starships capable of destroying a planet within the time it takes to go the gas station and fill your car (their empire held over 3million worlds, and the only design seed example we have seen created a 800 meter long ship that was classified as a "planet breaker" within minutes; imagine the Normandy from Mass Effect wasting a planet, and that was what one of the smallest Forerunner ships were capable of). The problem is, do they have the crew to man those ships? Yes. Aside from the simple population density of having 3million worlds at their disposal, they also had a heavy focus on hyper intelligent and advanced AI, some capable of commanding millions of ships simultaneously with no crew. So that's the gist of it, read that thread if you so wish for more details, it's fascinating.
