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7/13/2014 4:29:53 PM
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No, you aren't following the rules. You are [u]intentionally[/u] making the balls look like helmets. If the outline was flipped then it would still be bad because you made the lip on purpose. Dark Freckle's ok, because it was a singular attempt at hand drawing a ball. It also adds the charm of being poorly made. The problem is not that the rules aren't stated well, Death is working on remaking them, but that you try to bend them. Also stop acting like that I want " to fulfill some perfect idea." You're kidding yourself with that crap. I'm just trying to put together a template and have the users follow rules. Stop trying to make me into the bad guy. Look, this is what I want you to do. Get on whatever you do to make these and make a bunch of balls with different outlines. I'll tell you what is good and what is not. Just make them white with eyes.
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  • The end product of how it is misshapen is irrelevant to how it was made. You can only assume if it were on purpose or not. Until the rules are rewritten, I have merely worked within the unspecified grey areas. You can imply what the rules should be, but implying is not clearly stating. All I'm trying to do is voice other people's frustration, not just my own. I'm trying to actually care for them and their freedom of expression. And yes, not everyone cares as much about this as I do, but I have seen enough concern over it to say something about it. If the rules were clearly defined, air tight, then I wouldn't have found the wiggle room I did. Not just that I read the rules, but I also looked at all the accepted users, because what's good for them is good for everyone else. People like things to be fair, and people like to be unique. I've done just that. This one design is not what you should be complaining about. The design I had taken too far was Ossku's original. Obviously that was outside the rules. Yet I asked for feedback anyway. When things aren't clear cut, you need to find how far you can go. Which I did. And I promptly fixed it. I know what I'm doing. And I'm not trying to make you look like the bad guy, I pointing out how strict you're being on [i]some [/i]people. Look, here's me trying to compromise with you. Either say in the rules "try to hand draw the best/closest circle you can",(obviously elaborated on) or make templates for people to use. Remember, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. (And I'm addressing you specifically because you are the OP of this thread, regardless of if this was entirely your idea or not.)

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  • So you are going to draw them more circular now?

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  • I'm going to draw what the rules allow me to, so make 'em good.

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  • Do you understand what the rules are going to be?

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  • Edited by Casper: 7/13/2014 5:48:41 PM
    I will follow them to what they explicitly state. So make them clear, and make them concise. Because my priority is making people happy with their designs. And make sure you let everyone know that the rules have been updated.

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  • Why must you be so difficult? The rules seem to be clear to everyone but you.

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  • They are clear to me, and I have followed them. I don't understand why this whole thing tries to stifle any sort of creative freedom. You and Death have been the only two to have issues with what I draw. I don't do anything so rebellious. Ossku has diamond-ish eyes and Menschmaschine's has a circle with a lip. They love them! It's what represents [i]them[/i]! A Clone Trooper didn't [i]need[/i] eyes because he's a Clone Trooper. That what this whole this is about! I understand the limitations you've set and I understand how far I can take them before it's too much and unfair to others. Some people are fine with just a simple ball, some people need a little more to be defined. Do you know how many ODST's there are? There's already a second, so why should they just be recolors of each other? They're different people, they should look different. Nobody, not a one has complained about anyone's design execpt when they get told no to their's. Yeah, some are reasonable, but you guys are so impersonal about it. Try talking to them. See what both of you can come up with. Compromise.

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  • Damn son, every time you write a wall. [quote] A Clone Trooper didn't [i]need[/i] eyes because he's a Clone Trooper. That what this whole this is about! [/quote] What? A clone trooper has eyes and this is about me asking you to draw circles. No one really complains when their designs get a "no" though. Everyone except you has been overly willing to cooperate with me.

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  • A Clone Trooper didn't have eyes until I said anything. But yes! Because personal expression means so much more to me than you realize. And yeah, I've seen a few agitated people. But they're not going to argue. Hell, I've changed mine without much argument either. But what it seems like you think I'm going to do is is completely ruin the BungieBall scheme by drawing outlandish shapes, when in reality I'm not. I respect this idea. I think it's a great idea. But not to the amount it tries to have over how people can be drawn. You've seen what I've drawn. I've made six, seven if you count the failed Ossku one. None of them are that alien compared to the rest. They all fit right in with the rest of the 150+ balls people have made. No one complains about them.

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  • Can we stop with all the idealistic crap and just come to the conclusion that you are going to try and draw balls that are circles and not helmets?

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  • It's not crap. I will draw them circular as the rules state. Unevenness does not constitute as "helmets". As I've said, I would not be going to college as an art major, a graphic design no less, if I did not care about this so much. But fine. I will aim to be more circular from here onward if Menschmaschine's and Ossku's are accepted. I already have another person waiting.

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  • [quote] I will aim to be more circular from here onward[/quote] THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay Now on to another subject. I actually really do enjoy your designs ex. Ingloriouswho98 and barking spider.

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  • I enjoy making these. And I like having boundaries to work with. But as you can tell, I hate being overly restricted.

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