[quote] I said anybody who needs this red dot is a dumbass. If you need this handicap to get kills you are bad at the game and you won't get any better by playing with a handicap. There's no if, ands, or buts about it.[/quote] And this is where you continue to be close-minded, implying that a players ability to get kills is the only factor to determine their skill. I explained this above: [quote]If you are 1v1 dueling or perhaps playing DM or TDM, you may have a point, but what about class or objective-based games/gametypes? As I mentioned earlier, a player can have piss poor aim/KDR, yet still be a top contributor on his team.[/quote] So your statement of [i]"If you need this handicap to get kills you are bad at the game"[/i] is an inaccurate statement. They may be bad at one aspect of the game, but could still overall, be a good player. I have a friend that plays BF - his KDR is below 1.0, as is his KPM, but his SPM is always around 900. He is poor at shooting yet, he's still a good player, and a great teammate. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/ESuns/stats/227017780/xboxone/ The ironic truth is that depending on which game or gametype you play, and/or which role you fill, you don't actually have to be that good at shooting to still be good at the game.