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They didn't specifically call it an arena shooter in their marketing but I'd say "feels like Halo (an arena shooter)" counts for something.
How is this not comparable? "Feels like Halo" and slipping in a bunch of "accessible" elements and saying "there are also other options" isn't so far off from "Feels like Halo 2" and slipping in a bunch of "accessible" elements and saying "there are also other options." Who's to say (besides 343) the picture I posted is the extent of what we'll be seeing, in terms of "accessible" mechanics?
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[quote]They didn't specifically call it an arena shooter in their marketing but I'd say "feels like Halo (an arena shooter)" counts for something.[/quote] in terms of core gunplay, they were certainly correct. all they said was "feels like halo." [quote]How is this not comparable?[/quote] because in the quoted section frankie is [i]straight up denying[/i] that there were supposed to be loadouts in the build they were playing. thus this is a direct quote from the developers openly stating that there are supposed to be no loadouts, and if there are loadouts in this mode it will be a lie. halo 4's scenario was not a lie. [quote]"Feels like Halo" and slipping in a bunch of "accessible" elements and saying "there are also other options" isn't so far off from "Feels like Halo 2" and slipping in a bunch of "accessible" elements and saying "there are also other options." [/quote] correct, but that fails to model the situation appropriately. [quote]Who's to say (besides 343) the picture I posted is the extent of what we'll be seeing, in terms of "accessible" mechanics?[/quote] i don't know. can you prove to me that it isn't? because you're the only one making a resolute claim here.
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Edited by Mr Coco: 8/16/2014 9:16:15 PM[quote]in terms of core gunplay, they were certainly correct. all they said was "feels like halo." [/quote] They didn't say "just the core gunplay feels like Halo", though. It's pretty obvious that they reached out to the arena-shooter Halo fans during Halo 4's prerelease, nonetheless. [quote]because in the quoted section frankie is straight up denying that there were supposed to be loadouts in the build they were playing.[/quote] He said the loadouts we see are a result from a buggy UI, and went on to say that there are options. He didn't deny their existence, and didn't lie. What I said before about the final product being nothing like what they promised was wrong. I'm not saying that H2A is going to be a polar opposite of what we're being shown right now, but it looks like there are a few casual mechanics that have found their way into the game and don't get talked about, so it doesn't surprise me if a handful of casual game modes slip their way into matchmaking. I'm not trying to prove that H2A is doomed to be the next Halo 4, but am just raising some red flags. They tried pretty hard to get nostalgic competitive Halo players excited for Halo 4, and then kinda just swept them under the rug after the game came out.
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[quote]They didn't say "just the core gunplay feels like Halo", though. [/quote] they didn't really have to. [quote] It's pretty obvious that they reached out to the arena-shooter Halo fans during Halo 4's prerelease, nonetheless.[/quote] of course, but they never promised arena gameplay ever, and from day one it was marketed as a huge change. [quote]He said the loadouts we see are a result from a buggy UI, [/quote] that's exactly what i said. [quote]and went on to say that there are options. [/quote] and he also said that there were equal starts. [quote]He didn't deny their existence, [/quote] in the particular game mode they were playing? he did indeed deny it by saying that the options were only present due to a glitch. [quote]and didn't lie.[/quote] impossible to tell. [quote] I'm not saying that H2A is going to be a polar opposite of what we're being shown right now, but it looks like there are a few casual mechanics that have found their way into the game and don't get talked about, so it doesn't surprise me if a handful of casual game modes slip their way into matchmaking. I'm not trying to prove that H2A is doomed to be the next Halo 4, but am just raising some red flags. [/quote] i respect your overall motive, as there's always a right to be concerned. [quote]They tried pretty hard to get nostalgic competitive Halo players excited for Halo 4, and then kinda just swept them under the rug after the game came out.[/quote] but they laid everything out to them. there was no lie, and any person who watched the marketing campaign knew that the game would be a class based loadout shooter with all bells and whistles attached. literally everyone on here following the marketing and the halo haven group knew what they were in for. regardless i think this debate's really gotten long winded for absolutely no reason. i'm ready to just call it a day and respect your concern.